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Torrentocracy = RSS + Bit Torrent + Your TV

lerhaupt writes "I've started a project called Torrentocracy which is the combination of RSS, Bit Torrent and your Television. It's written as a plugin for MythTV (the homebrew Linux PVR project). This means you can not only easily find out about new torrents from various enclosure enabled blogs, but you can also start the torrent download process with the click of your TV remote control. Are RSS aggregators which support torrent downloads the next greatest thing since web browsers? What is the significance of hooking this directly to your TV? Here's a screenshot."

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  1. Psst. Buddy. by numbski · · Score: 5, Funny

    You really should've torrented that .jpg.

    Just a thought.

    Kthx. ;)

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  2. Computer + TV card by freeduke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of people take the problem from the other side, while trying to download movies on your TV, we prefer to watch tv on our PCs.

  3. From "The Matrix" by numbski · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I think we can handle one little jpg."

    "No Lieutenant, your webserver is already dead."

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  4. Re:Sounds Wonderful by Rob_Warwick · · Score: 5, Funny

    No! Turning off your monitor and turning off your computer are the same thing. Anyone who's ever worked phone tech support can tell you that.

    Plus, if you use the switch on your monitor, you can get some awesome boot times!

  5. Dangerous New Bomb by Moblaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next thing you know, Orrin Hatch will be introducing a bill to blow up your television every time you watch some bootleg show.

  6. Re:i love the idea of torrents but ... by laird · · Score: 5, Informative

    "torrents should start to be paired with PAR files to create a far more robust method of fetching large files"

    This doesn't make any sense. Torrents are completely reliable -- they already have block and file level hashing and automatic re-downloading of blocks in case of transmission errors, etc. The only time you won't get a complete torrent is if there are no complete copies of the file being served. Adding error correcting codes (e.g. PAR files) would make the total file larger, and only recover from incomplete torrents that are _almost_ complete (i.e. would have been complete if the PAR file hadn't made it 15% larger). Just make sure that anything you're downloading has a couple of seeds before starting the download. ;-)

  7. Re:Bad rep by spezz · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Absolutely. It's been fastest way for me to get Red Orchestra and several other huge Unreal mods. The "make something unreal" contest has created a whole mini release cycle for mods, with it's deadlines and lure of cash prizes. So all of a sudden there's 4-5gb of files worth downloading all at once and all manner of choked up servers.

    Bit torrent, however can serve up the 400+ mb file within an hour and the developers can just set up the link to the seed from their site. It carries an air of legitimacy greater than you can achieve by saying "or look for the file on eMule".

  8. Broadcatching with BitTorrent by sco · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here is my original long-winded essay which explicated the RSS+BT idea:

    http://scottraymond.net/archive/4745

    After addressing the initial whys and wherefores, I speculate on how the pairing might be potent enought to spark an indie media revolution. Here's the text:

    -- RSS meets BitTorrent meets TiVo.

    The other day, Steve Gillmor wrote about BitTorrent and RSS and how they could be combined to create a "disruptive revolution." He's half right. RSS and BT are indeed two great tastes that taste great together, but Gillmor's vision is upside down: we shouldn't use BitTorrent to carry RSS, we should use RSS to carry BitTorrent. Let me explain.

    -- But first, some background.

    RSS (RDF Site Summary) is a simple format for syndicating content on the web. These days, the most common application of RSS is subscribing to weblogs: you tell your computer to check an RSS file for changes every so often, and then it notifies you when there's something new to read. If you're like me and you read one metric shitload of news every day, this is a life-saver.

    BitTorrent, the brainchild of Bram Cohen, is the current cool-kids' P2P program. It works sort of like Kazaa, but at a lower level. It doesn't handle searching for new files, it doesn't have a media player, it just concentrates on downloading big files efficiently.

    Okay. Two solutions in search of a problem. Here's a problem:

    -- I have a weakness.

    I am addicted to the show Alias. I watched the first couple episodes of season two as it aired, and I was hooked. In my honest moments, I'll admit that the show's appeal is mostly due to the callipygian Jennifer Garner. It's a weakness; we deal.

    But it gets worse. I go out on Sunday nights, when Alias airs, and I don't want to give that up. That's why God created the VCR, I know, but to compound the problem, I don't have TV. I don't want to have TV, because I love the feeling of superiority that I get by not having it.

    This system is at tension, it has no rest, its forces are unbalanced, it wants to be resolved.

    -- A partial answer.

    The internet, it turns out, is great at resolving different kinds of tensions, and this is one of them. After a few weeks of missed episodes, I realized that with a little patience, a P2P program like Kazaa was able to fetch back-episodes with aplomb. Each file is around 450 megs, fairly high-quality video, with commercials cut out. I start a few episodes downloading, and by the next evening, they're ready to watch, whenever I have the time.

    After a few weeks of enjoying this, a new tension emerged: I had caught up with all of the old episodes, and I had to wait a week for each new one. The problem is that the Kazaa protocol isn't especially well-tuned for getting brand new files: first someone has to record the show as it airs, cut out the commercials, and compress it to a reasonable size, then seed it on the network. Then, it has to slowly propagate to its peers, each transfer taking hours. It might take three days before it's available on enough peers that I'm able to even find it, let alone download it.

    -- BitTorrent to the rescue.

    The solution is BitTorrent. BitTorrent operates on similar principles to Kazaa, but it's tuned differently: it excels at downloading files that are new or currently in high demand. It breaks large files into many small chunks, and coordinates their assemblage, so that users can tap into a swarm and distribute the load evenly. At the same time that you're downloading a chunk, another user is downloading an earlier chunk from you -- no one server is overwhelmed, and the more popular a file, the higher its availability is. It's perfect for large files that are most interesting when they're fresh -- in other words, it's perfect for TV shows.

    In many cases, I have been able to use BitTorrent to completely download a new TV show mere hours after the show airs.