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Deep Inside the K Desktop Environment

Lemmingue writes "Ars Technica published a very good article about the KDE architecture. It's a essential read for anyone wondering how Konqueror can open documents in the same window or just understand the license issues regarding the Qt use. The article describes most of the technologies behind the KDE (Qt, KParts) and how the project is organized. The article is full of links, screenshots and diagrams."

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  1. Re:Why does KDE always reinvent the wheel by ultrabot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Regarding the subject: probably because someone among the KDE people thinks s/he can do better than the author of the original app. As far as apps like kopete and kontact go, they actually did do better. Konqueror is still primarily a file manager (excellent browser too, but I guess the "standard" browser will be Firefox in the near future), and significantly better than nautilus as far ergonomics and features go. It also preceded nautilus chronologically.

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  2. Naming for normals? by otis+wildflower · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has it occurred to anyone that supporting non-l337 g33kz using KDE as a primary desktop will be made more difficult just because it's impossible to keep track of all the dopey names for things?

    How does 'kopete' relate to 'chat' or 'instant messaging'? How does 'Konqueror' relate to 'browsing the web'? How does 'Apollon' apply to p2p? How does 'K3b' apply to CD burning/ripping? KMail works. KControlCenter works. Easy for someone to figure out what it does by its name. That is what A NAME IS FOR. We're not dealing with hungarian notation here: The whole idea of a UI is that it needs to be completely descriptive at a glance, and anything that is counterintuitive or obscurantist needs to be fixed or replaced. Normals expect this, they don't think it a crutch, and they're not expected to know better (as developers who take issue with HN may argue other developers _are_ expected to).

    At least Apple (and even M$ to a lesser extent) uses prosaic names like iPhoto, iChat, Mail, DVD Player, iCal, Address Book, which makes it easier for mortals to understand their metaphor (Safari being the most egregious exception). KDE ware names seem purposefully opaque, and if you want to make a dent in the GUI you either have to hope for great icons and forget the names, or you have to do more work than you should have to do.

    I love KDE, I think anyone from 3 to 103 could use it comfortably, but I shudder to think about all the help calls I'd get from people just trying to find shit in the interface.. It took me an hour of googling to figure out what the hell Apollon was! Anything that can or should be in a base KDE release (or a bundle, like kdemultimedia or kdenetwork) should have a simple, descriptive name, even if it means stepping on the toes of obsolete projects or capricious developers.

    (OTOH, maybe you don't give a damn about condemning your less technical friends and/or family to a life of M$ hell. Oh well.)

    1. Re:Naming for normals? by standsolid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I present, for your edification, a screenshot of what a KDE Menu looks like.
      If you have any questions to what a "Music Player" is, then there is little hope for you, yet.

      Hell, This menu didn't comfuse my grandmother, and you're still complaining about supporting users.

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    2. Re:Naming for normals? by Dravik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now is Outlook or Access the one you want for email. Hmmm, mabey it's Excel. Why doesn't Microsoft name their apps something easy to figure out just from the name. Something like Kontact.

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    3. Re:Naming for normals? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      How does 'kopete' relate to 'chat' or 'instant messaging'?

      In much the same way that "Visual Studio" relates to programming (and not graphic design) for the unitiated, and Trillian relates to instant messaging, and Eudora relates to email, and Vivio relates to drawing diagrams.

      They only sound worse than the equally unrelated Windows names because you're not used to them yet, unless you really do independently associate the act of burning CDs with the name "Roxio".

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  3. Re:Rockin! Maybe in a few months... by 0x0d0a · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, I really like seeing Ars-Slashdot ties. I don't see the two as competing much -- Ars has lots of good, original content, whereas Slashdot just links to content, but Slashcode is (IMHO) a more pleasant-to-use forum engine. They complement each other very nicely.

  4. Re:Why does KDE always reinvent the wheel by AstroDrabb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am a long time Gnome user and only recently have been using (and really liking) KDE. While it may seem to be reinventing the wheel, there is not much choie for a KDE developer. They cannot reuse GTK/Gnome stuff, since that would add more dependencies to a KDE desktop. Why would a KDE desktop user want Gnome/GTK dependencies? Just as why would a Gnome/GTK desktop user want QT/KDE dependencies? The two toolkits and desktops are very different and use different languages (C and C++) so the hope of reusing GTK/Gnome and QT/KDE is slim to none. They could reuse ideas, but not code. Just as it would be hard to reuse code between MS Windows and Mac OSX.

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