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Confession For Two: A Spammer Spills it All

defender writes "Rejo Zenger, well known Dutch anti-spam activist, recently had a very frank talk with a (now retired) spammer. He got information as to how and why S. Pammer started, where and why he was kicked out, who helped him get his bulletproof hosting, his open proxy mailings etc. It gives a nice and concise view of what the costs for a smalltime spammer are. About 200 Euros for the hosting and ability to spam at least half a million addresses (in a months time). That's for a turnover of 6 times and a net profit of well over twice those initial spam-related costs. Complete with screenshots, of course."

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  1. Re:Fscking God! by ktakki · · Score: 5, Informative
    Would somebody PLEASE just kill those fuckers?

    Okay, who owns send-safe.com?
    domain: SEND-SAFE.COM
    owner-address: Ibragimov Ruslan
    owner-address: 12 Krasnokazarmennaya
    owner-address: 111250
    owner-address: Moscow
    owner-address: Russia
    owner-phone: +7.957235641
    owner-e-mail: b35ed568876bf16d66d15c298b2159a8-564687@owner.gan di.net
    admin-c: IR14-GANDI
    tech-c: IR14-GANDI
    bill-c: IR14-GANDI
    nserver: dns.send-safe.com 217.107.162.252
    nserver: dns2.send-safe.com 217.107.162.200
    reg_created: 2001-11-14 04:31:54
    expires: 2005-11-14 04:31:54
    created: 2001-11-14 10:31:55
    changed: 2004-04-27 11:56:07
    Gah! The Russian Mob! Well, I'm all for killing spammers, but in SOVIET RUSSIA spammer kills YOU!

    Okay, who owns that netblock?
    $ whois 207.107.162.252
    Sprint Canada Inc. NETBLK-SPRINTCAN-BLK3
    (NET-207-107-0-0-1) 207.107.0.0 - 207.107.255.255
    Western Inventory Service NET-WESTERNIN-107-163 (NET-207-107-162-0-1)
    207.107.162.0 - 207.107.163.255
    Canadians! Back-bacon eating, toque-wearing, Stanley-Cup-losing Canadians. I'd rather take on 25,000,000 Canadians any day than mess with the Russkie Mafia.

    Now, who hosts www.send-safe.com?
    $ whois 65.210.168.34
    UUNET Technologies, Inc. UUNET65
    (NET-65-192-0-0-1)
    65.192.0.0 - 65.223.255.255
    MTI SOFTWARE UU-65-210-168-32-D9
    (NET-65-210-168-32-1)
    65.210 .168.32 - 65.210.168.39
    Hmmm...I knew UUNET would pop up somewhere. There are a couple of MTI Software results on Google; one sells support and service for OpenVMS systems, the other sells bulk e-mail software. I think it's the latter...
    Registrant:
    MTI Software
    4577 Gunn Highway #161
    Tampa, FL 33624
    US

    Domain name: EMAILEMAILEMAIL.COM

    Administrative Contact:
    Bentley, Nick nick@mtisoftware.com
    4577 Gunn Highway #161
    Tampa, FL 33624
    US
    813-968-1531
    Technical Contact:
    Li, Jonathan jonathan@123cheapdomains.com
    920 Cranbrook Court, Suite #7
    Davis, Ca 95616
    US
    1-415-682-3859
    Florida. It figures. First in spam, first in hanging chads, first in the hearts of the nation.

    So, to sum up, we have an Axis of Evil: Russians, Canadians, and Floridians, all conspiring to deploy Weapons of Mass E-mail Destruction. Gimme a couple of days to throw together a Powerpoint presentation for the UN Security Council and maybe we can get a posse...err, a coalition together.

    k.
    --
    "In spite of everything, I still believe that people are really good at heart." - Anne Frank