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ATi HDTV Tuner For The PC Arrives

Chi-Energy writes "ATi has released their new HDTV Tuner card for the PC today, which allows High Def broadcasts and cable content to be displayed on any PC monitor. It should be is especially impressive on some of the new fast response time flat panels that are on the market today. HotHardware has a full review and showcase of the product here. The good news is, with the supplied antenna, you can just grab local HDTV programming right out of the air for free!"

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  1. Extreme Tech has a review up too by enrico_suave · · Score: 4, Informative

    FWIW...

    Extreme Tech HDTV review (7 out of 10)

    *shrug*

    e.

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  2. For HDTV n00bs... by darth_MALL · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's all the dirt on HDTV. Read and enjoy :)

  3. Re:THey just don't get it... by swordboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    What we NEED, and I mean REALLY NEED, is the ability to get HDTV from sources we int he real world actually USE

    1) Buy this card.
    2) Buy IR mouse.
    3) Watch HDTV from satellite or cable
    4) Profit

    We'll need some good software, first. It should only be a matter of time before Myth or one of the others gets good support for this.

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  4. You Just Don't Get It by BRock97 · · Score: 4, Informative

    What we NEED, and I mean REALLY NEED, is the ability to get HDTV from sources we in the real world actually USE (cable and sattelite)<snip>

    That is what you get. The ATI comes with a tuner that not only supports OTA but also QAM so you can plug your local cable company's line into the card and get a signal. Now, that doesn't get you the encrypted stuff (ESPNHD, HBO), you will need a box for that, but will get you locals. That is the case for Cox Cable here in Omaha, NE.

    AT BEST, with your HDTV OTA card you will get marginal quality from a handful of HDTV channels.

    What are you talking about? If you compare the same content delivered over the air to that delievered via cable, it is all the same digital signal, not marginal quality. End of story. Now, reception of that signal might not be great, but if you do get a lock of about 60% or greater, it is the same. Again, this is my experience here in Omaha.

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    1. Re:You Just Don't Get It by Mad+Quacker · · Score: 4, Informative


      That is what you get. The ATI comes with a tuner that not only supports OTA but also QAM so you can plug your local cable company's line into the card and get a signal.


      Not according to ATI, yes the NXT2004 chip does support QAM, but the card does not. The ExtremeTech review explains this.

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    2. Re:You Just Don't Get It by andykuan · · Score: 3, Informative

      I still haven't seen anything indicating that the HDTV Wonder will do QAM. AFAIK, the only card out there that does both ATSC and QAM is the DViCO Fusion HDTV III-QAM -- and apparently its software is still crap. Is there some spec out there that explicitly states that the ATI card supports QAM? I've been holding back on purchasing the Fusion card until they get their software straightened out, but I'll sooner drop money on an ATI since I'm certain I can return the card if it stinks (unlike the Fusion).

  5. Re:Extreme Tech has a review up too by rsrsharma · · Score: 3, Informative

    So does Anandtech.
    Anandtech review

  6. Re:Size of HDTV? by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's right around 8GB per hour, which is about 4x the space that SD requires.

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  7. Re:Size of HDTV? by ObjetDart · · Score: 5, Informative
    Anyone know how much space a show recorder in HDTV actually takes up? I'd be curious... With the increase in resolution must come MUCH larger file sizes...

    Several TV shows in HDTV have been available on BitTorrent for a while now...er, or so I've heard anyway. Encoded with Divx, they take about 350 megs per 1 hour show minus the commercials, and are pretty good quality.

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  8. Mac users can do it with a cheap firewire cable... by Rascasse · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...no other expensive software required. Another reason why I love my Mac.

  9. Re:THey just don't get it... by Chris+Carollo · · Score: 4, Informative
    What we NEED, and I mean REALLY NEED, is the ability to get HDTV from sources we int he real world actually USE (cable and sattelite) into our boxes. Right now there is no way to do this without an insanely expensive Component encoder card.
    It's a bit hacked at the moment, but you can actually get HD signals from your cable box via firewire to your PC. The FCC has mandated that all cable companies that provide HD also provide a cable box that has working firewire outs.I'm able to record the HD transport stream to my laptop and actually watch the HD stream on my laptop screen as well.
    AT BEST, with your HDTV OTA card you will get marginal quality from a handful of HDTV channels. With satellite or cable you will get dozens of absolutely pure channels - and you can't get them into your PVR
    Here you're just wrong -- OTA signals are often BETTER than via cable because cable companies can compress their QAM signal as much as they'd like. OTA requires the diginal feed to use the full 19.2mb/s stream, so as long as they're not multicasting you're often getting a better-quality feed.

    Also, most cable boxes use a component (YPrPb) connection whereas computer-based HD OTA tuners use RGB, and RGB is a noticably better signal. So if you're able to actually receive the HD signals (not too hard in my experience), OTA can often look better than cable.

    That said, I do agree that it's nice to finally have a QAM-capable card so that it's easier to actually record content using cable.
  10. Re:even *BETTER* captures by Elamaton · · Score: 4, Informative
    2004 - HDTV capture coming soon to a bittorrent stream near you!!!

    You mean like the ones that various TV-rip groups have been releasing at least for about a year and a half now?

    A quick search at NFOrce Entertainment returns this as the first "officially" released HDTV rip (unless my search was horribly flawed, which is quite possible), but it seems that onwards from December 2002 the HDTV rips gradually became commonplace.

    Anyway, old news :-).

  11. The Antenna you Need by TheSync · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you are serious about receiving over-the-air DTV transmissions and don't have an external antenna, you will want this: The Silver Sensor directional antenna. It is the standard in use by broadcaster labs for in-building reception. You should get a long length of coax so you can point the thing out your window, sometimes you need to get a reflection off of a neighboring building if you are not line-of-sight from the transmitter. Keep poking it around until you get a usable signal.

  12. Well holy hell... you don't need a mac. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can use anything with firewire that can record DV. Even a PC with linux would do.

    I HAVE TO GET THAT. I'm such a moron. Thanks FCC!

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  13. Re:THey just don't get it... by jillako · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, all you need is a Mac running OS X and the Firewire SDK from Apple's Developer site. HDTV boxes do come with Firewire connections. Read more here