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Valve Gets Tough On Counter-Strike Cheaters

Tycow writes "Valve is finally getting tough on Counter-Strike cheat creators, according to a post by Gabe Newell on HL2-Fallout, who confirms: 'We've started taking legal action against cheating (cheat-sites, cheat creators,...) both in the US and abroad.' The makers of OGC, one of the mainstream cheat software sites for online games, are apparently seeking legal advice. CS-Nation also has a story noting: 'This is just another front in Valve's anti-cheating campaign. Back in April, Valve began a significantly more aggressive banning methodology, that came as a byproduct of a rapid series of VAC updates silently distributed to all CS servers.'"

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  1. Quit blaming other people for your own problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps, instead of relying on yet-more-lawyers and yet-more-lawsuits, Valve should try to fix the FUCKING BUGS FIRST.

    The vast majority of exploits and cheats are based on bugs. Fix the bug, you fix the problem.

    Quit blaming other people for your own problems Valve.

  2. And this is legal how? by pilot1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What exactly gives them the right to shut down a website that distributes software that they don't like?
    While I hate cheating, I don't know how they have the legal right to do this.

  3. Cheats are not illegal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exactly. We all hate cheaters, but mucking around in the legal system isn't exactly the best solution here.

    Is distributing a cheat a violation of the (US and/or international) law? Nope.

    The people who run the cheat website's haven't necessarily violated the EULA either.

    The US and International governments are busy dealing with millions of starving people, wars, trade agreements. Your "cheat" isn't even a blip on anyone's radar...

  4. Your Honor, He Ruined My Fun by Babbster · · Score: 3, Insightful
    First off, let me state that I don't use cheat programs in multiplayer games (in fact, over the past couple years, most of my multiplayer gaming has been on AFAICT cheat program-free Xbox Live). That being said, I say TS to people who get into a game with a cheater.

    When I was playing PC multiplayer games on a regular basis, there were always games with cheaters in them. They (usually the cheater, otherwise the game) were easy to figure out. The solution? Switch to a different server. It ain't rocket science. The idea of suing someone for ruining an online game (specifically, a non-persistent online game with beaucoup other servers available) is ludicrous. The idea of a company suing people who make and distribute cheats - assuming they aren't breaking copyright law - is ludicrous.

    There's an easy way to remain free of cheaters in online games. Make friends and then play with them. Not only will you be reasonably certain there's no cheating going on, but you'll probably enjoy the experience more regardless.

    I mean, hell, if we're going to talk about lawsuits for ruining people's fun then why not go after spawn campers, consta-jumpers, loot whores, etc., too? How about suing people who are frustrated but remain in the game and on a team doing badly on purpose?

    If you're taking online games that seriously, though, I would recommend first that you quit playing online games and stick with single-player - clearly, you don't have thick enough skin to deal with other humans. Either that, or start a service - or find a way to encourage companies to start a service - with pay servers. If people are so invested in these games it's worth tying up court time, then it should be worth $10 a month to have a bank of exclusive servers not open to the general public. I would guess you'd weed out 90% of the cheaters with that one stroke since they'd probably keep cheating on free systems.

    PS- The next time you find a clause guaranteeing "freedom to be entertained" in a government's constitution, let me know so that I can snicker. Aren't there enough SERIOUS and IMPORTANT issues of freedom to deal with?

    PPS- The type of person who would make your suggestions would be the type of person with whom I would want to play and punish with cheating - I'm just that kind of bastard.

    1. Re:Your Honor, He Ruined My Fun by NeMon'ess · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You said it yourself If people are so invested in these games it's worth tying up court time...

      The people in this case is Valve which wants to make more money and keep its non-cheating fans happy. Its their job.

      If there's reasonable ways to keep cheaters from spoiling the fun of others, I'm all for them. Beats making the non-cheaters pay more money for a non-cheater environment.