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New Safety Feature Detects Flesh

nmb3000 writes "SawStop has introduced a new safety feature for dangerous power tools such as table and band saws which, if accurate and reliable, could result in a lot fewer people visiting the emergency room due to deadly accidents. Using the difference in electrical capacitance between various substances, the system can stop a blade rotating at 4000 RPM in less than 5 milliseconds after detecting contact with flesh. It's hard to understand just how effective this is until you see the demonstration videos where a hotdog is used in place of a potential victim's finger. The site also gives a brief explanation of how the system works as well as some high-speed videos showing just how quickly the blade stops rotating. I wonder if this same technology might be used to protect you neighbor's cat from your robotic lawnmower?"

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  1. Re:Nope, this isn't new by rtaylor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I would never use one of these things. If you use your tools properly, and avoid running 'bad' wood through your tools, you will never have a problem. Avoid distractions, pay attention, and use push sticks.

    Since normal people will never trigger the device, they will, of course, never need to replace the device either.

    But it sounds like a great system for the one time the dog manages sneak in and it trips you. Or for schools where a kid, every few years, seems to manage to injure themselves.

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  2. Re:Nope, this isn't new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Oh sure, now that my car has both a safety belt and air bags, I always try and drive at high speeds and put my safety in jeopardy multiple times.

    This is a device that should be treated as a feature like the airbag or seat belt. It's there in case something bad happens. Life happens. 99% of the time nothing will happen and everything will be fine, but that 1% is what you have to watch out for.

    -Your chances of dying while driving to the airport is higher than flying in a plane

  3. Seriously... by hlh_nospam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A bandsaw is commonly used to cut meat in butcher shops. I'm guessing that this device would not work on that application.

    Also, gotta wonder if this sort of thing might actually *increase* the number of injuries from power cutting equipment -- by reducing the level of respect for the destruction power of the equipment. Sorta like some of the safety features of automobiles has led to some folks driving more agressively...

  4. Re:How does the brake by Electrum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's simple ... you DO have to install a new device every time, at fairly high cost. One of the reasons most folks don't like this device.

    That's silly. The cost of losing a finger or an arm is greater.

  5. Re:Nope, this isn't new by andawyr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been using powertools of all shapes and sizes for close to 25 years, and I've never had an accident, nor I have ever come close to injuring myself.

    Why? Because I know how to use my tools, I work in a safe environment, and I make sure my tools are in good working condition. If you don't know what you're doing, or are careless, or, or or, then sure, purchase a safety device to protect yourself. What I'm saying is that if you DO know what you're doing, you won't need it.

    For places like schools and public wood shops, sure, the device could be installed. In those situation you're working with unknown quantities - people are just learning, or are too immature to really understand what they're dealing with.

    Safety devices are great, but they are no substitute for brains. We can't pad every sharp corner in the world either...

  6. Re:Nope, this isn't new by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    uhh.. but by default you won't know if you know or don't know what you're doing. or if the cat got in and jumps on your back, or whatever unforeseeable.

    accidents aren't planned, they just 'happen', usually because something that you didn't expect happens. then it's quite good to have a failsafe.

    besides, it looks like it still would hurt enough to not joke with the thing.

    there's plenty of people in the world who have operated some devices for 20-30 years and then had an accident, why would you be different from them? People that think that they know what they're doing have accidents all the time.

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  7. Too bad more safety professionals don't read /. by Bahumat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I work in the Loss Control industry, which is a fancy way of saying I try to make jobs safer for people so that A) you still have your limbs at the end of the day, and B) your employer doesn't have to pay through the nose for injuries/casualties.

    I showed the videos to the Director of the company and immediately it's been making it's rounds through the office. This is exciting technology, this is *important* technology. Ask the thousands of labourers, carpenters, shop workers, around north america who've lost digits to cutting accidents what they think of this technology. No, you won't hear a goddamn negative thing.

    Some people have complained about the inventor of the technology trying to make the device mandatory on cutting tools. Is this self-serving for him? Hell yes. Is he still in the right? Undoubtedly. Hard hats, steel toe boots, rebar covers, flagmen, confined space entry, are all areas of industry that are strongly regulated by governments, and made mandatory by law. This should, without a doubt, join it.

    One significant aspect of the technology that needs to be addressed however, and raised by a fellow /.'er, is that the cartridge must be re-useable. Not infinitely, but it should be able to hold at least 6 good stops to itself before needing a cartridge change. (By law, and good safety policy, such systems should be regularly tested.)

    I look forward to this technology becoming industry standard. The man who invented it is going to be filthy, stinking rich, and definetly deserves to be. That's what innovation leads to; success.

    And for the rest of you going on about "You don't need this if you're careful.", I call bullshit. You need a hardhat, you need safety goggles, you need steel-toe boots. *YOU* can be careful, but you can't control all variables around you. That's why they're called 'Accidents' when they happen.

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  8. Re:Nope, this isn't new by Hungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The cars are inherently safer. What you should have said is the DRIVERS of cars with antilock brakes are inherently more dangerous.

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