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ISS Gyro Fixed Via Spacewalk

Teahouse writes "After a failed attempt last week, the ISS Astronauts finally got to fix the external gyroscope circut breaker in the station. Tests are being run today, but it looks like the ISS is back to having attitude stability with redundancy. This is particularly significant with the Shuttle being grounded for an extended period because the ISS would have had to use thruster fuel to keep the Station's solar panels pointed in the right direction without the gyroscopes, and no guarantee when more fuel would be arriving."

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  1. Another space station dying of neglect? by coupland · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So... Mir died of Russian neglect, and so early into its mission the ISS seems to be dying of US neglect. Even if shuttle missions resume the importance of the ISS in US plans has been eclipsed by a moon base and a Mars mission. Lots of people criticize the ISS because it was largely conceived with politics in mind moreso than economics or science. Surely they hate the new US direction even more -- billions more will be blown, over the course of far more administrations who will always be gunning to kill it for more cash -- just to give the impression of superiority over the Chinese. I say either fund and finish the ISS or start a new economical, science-based space project from scratch. But moon bases? Please, ISS doesn't deserve to fall apart for this...

    1. Re:Another space station dying of neglect? by toddhunter · · Score: 3, Insightful


      Besides, the entire point of these risky, socially purposeless, complicated, budget-eating manned space missions is basically to do more things big and showy to pat ourselves on the back as a species


      Just keep in mind that our planet is doomed to be sucked into the sun one day. Sure we have a fair while to get off this planet, but the sooner we start the better right?

    2. Re:Another space station dying of neglect? by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, the Bush mars program is about getting him votes.

    3. Re:Another space station dying of neglect? by dj42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you even remotely have any idea of the spin-off products created by NASA in these adventures to space? We're not just learning how to go to space. NASA is DIRECTLY responsible for many of the household conveniences you no doubt ignorantly use, as well as THOUSANDS of other spin-off products that make BILLIONS for the US Economy. People really need to lay off NASA that believe these missions are only about their surface purpose. The technology in doing what these people do to get into space is literally indispensable in real world applications and is DRIVING the U.S. technologically and economically, despite the "irrelevant" nature of the missions, in a nation devoid of spiritual inclination. Mod me to the moon... and mars! *cough*

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    4. Re:Another space station dying of neglect? by Igmuth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And yet at the same time, the military is responsible for even more those same things. Yet, should we go around starting wars just to get more cool toys?

    5. Re:Another space station dying of neglect? by delibes · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The sun will be in its current stage for much longer than we can comfortably imagine. A few billion years or so. If we haven't got a nice Star Trek future (go on, admit you want it) within the next million years, we're probably all doomed anyway.

      As for asteroids. What good is a manned space program going to do? I would imagine solutions involving long-range detection and nuclear explosions. Possibly a big frikin' "laser"... but do you really thing it'll be like the film "Armageddon"?

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    6. Re:Another space station dying of neglect? by joeljkp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not with half the country not supporting it. It's more about giving the flailing NASA a mission and closing the Columbia book.

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  2. Reminds me of Galaxy Quest.. by bigattichouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Specifically, the line "Why is this room here" when they're in thec hompers room. Note to self, when designing something where it is incredibly dangerous to go outside and fix, spring for the extra twenty feet of cable and put the circuit breaker INSIDE THE DAMN SHIP.

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    1. Re:Reminds me of Galaxy Quest.. by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      maybe they're worried about it shorting out and catching on fire, like Apollo 1?

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  3. Re:boring ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They spend all their simply MAINTAINING the station. Not much actual science happens aboard the debacle called ISS.

  4. Re:We're going to Mars! by dj42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's supposed to comback online in 2005. Aside from that, safety concerns are a joke. These astronauts want to go to the space and the government, for political reasons is preventing them. What do you think test pilots, and the true explorers have been doing for ages? Sure, we don't want to needlessly die, but we're a bunch of water-meat-bags attached to a ball of rock -- if we're interested in the giant cosmos that supports us, and are willing to risk our lives to do so, isn't that a noble cause? My god. The USA will send thousands to their death to a country rich in oil, and yet, they won't even risk 5 or 10 people to explore the vast universe they live. What a short-sided pitiful view of the world. Right now, if I could fly in the shuttle, and they'd take me into space for some dangerous mission, I would go. No shit.

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  5. NASA Spin-offs make the U.S. Billions Regardless by dj42 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    http://www.nasatechnology.com/ NASA's byproducts make the missions thus far almost pale in compairson, if you're actually so spiritually devoid that you consider exploring your own universe, that which sustains you, a waste of money. Hell, if the USA hadn't invaded IRAQ we could have given NASA 10x its budget, and learned about us, as a species, a people, a planet, a consciousness. And yet, here we are, grounding our efforts because a few people died tragically. It's sad, yes, but so it sending thousands to their death for a questionable cause. How can we value life more in war, but less in understanding ourselves as people? The Earth spins round and round. It's all a mystery.

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  6. Yes, but what is 'practical'? by dj42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The NASA of today should focus on the practical, useful aspects of space, instead of being used as a political tool by whatever president is in office." pratical? spiritual? I agree it shouldn't be used as a tool, but no matter what we do in space, with humans there, as of 2004, we will learn remarkably more than we know now about how we live, who we are, and where we can go.

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  7. Chinese economic growth by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 2, Insightful
    And for decades they have put that investment into US companies, knowing their investment was safe. Last year, more people chose to safely tuck their money away in China than in America.

    You're confusing 'risk' and 'return'. People haven't put their investments into US companies because they knew their investment was safe, they did it because they felt they could get a high rate of return on their money. If they wanted a safe investment, they would buy US treasury securities, currently the safest investment on Earth.

    Now, they're investing more money in the Chinese economy, because they feel that Chinese companies will grow faster (and thus provide a higher rate of return). That's not terribly surprising, as it's easy to see that China has enormous economic growth potential. Much the same occurred with southeast Asia in the early-to-mid 1990s, until their bubble collapsed.

    It can do basic, medium and even some high-tech manufacturing for a fraction of the price to do so in the US.

    The reason for this is not some magic, but because China has vastly lower labor costs. To some extent, this is because China uses a huge amount of slave labor.

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  8. Re:We're going to Mars! by dj42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The real issue here isn't astronaut safety, but asset safety. We have hundreds of astronauts, but only three shuttles. As such, we should be concentrating solely on how to maximize their survivability and not expending so many resources on crew survivability in the event of a catastrophic failure." When we start supporting materialism over life, we've gone the wrong direction. I believe in searching for answers to our questions, but if we start caring more about our means instead of those that may risk their lives to achieve it, it's possible we've missed the purpose.

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  9. Re:We're going to Mars! by Einer2 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The issue isn't about materialism at all. The space shuttle is a national asset. As such, the government has to weigh its value to the nation as a whole. It sucks for the astronauts, but after a point, you simply have to decide that the interests of 280 million people outweigh those of seven.

    This is the same reason we don't leave Iraq in order to save hostages and the same reason we don't spend ten billion trillion dollars installing tons of high-tech armor on every humvee. Government is about assessing cost/benefit ratios, and when those in charge forget it, we all land in deep trouble.

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  10. What the shuttle is worth by cameldrv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Shuttle costs around $1 bil each launch. If you figure that the average NASA or NASA contractor employee makes about $50k a year and has a working lifetime of about 40 years, that's about $2 mil per working lifetime in salary. Thus the equivalent of 500 people put their life's work into each launch. A person's life's work is not the same as his life, but it's in the ballpark. The shuttle's construction is far more complicated than just launching it once, so to say that the shuttle is more valuable than its crew is true. It is the life's work of thousands upon thousands of people. Something like the shuttle is one of the only artifacts we have that is comparable to, for instance, the cathedrals of Europe in its scale.

  11. Re:Problems with the Shuttle-centric approach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just replying to inform this parent poster.

    Many of rocket boosters can be used to launch something into LEO. No problem there. But they are NOT designed to carry human inside the loading cargo on its tip of a rocket. One consideration, which is often ignored, is a supersonic vibration within the closed cavity. [The downside of it is your gut may explode under the supersonic vibration.]

    In any manned rocket design, the vibration is suppressed and is safe for human to ride inside. But not so for many unmanned rocket boosters.

    Cheers,

    -b

  12. Please explain one thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Having a job is not important. Survival and living a happy life is. If you have enough money to survive and live a happy life, you don't need a job. If you can survive and live a happy life without money, then you don't need money.

    Do you think a person's life is defined by the work he or she does? Does work equal life?

    Let the robots do the boring jobs. Let humans come up with things the robots can't do.