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Dept. of Homeland Security Says to Stop Using IE

LWATCDR writes "I have been saying this for a long time but now it is offical. From Yahoo News: 'The Department of Homeland Security's U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team touched off a storm this week when it recommended for security reasons using browsers other than Microsoft's Internet Explorer.'" In related news, rocketjam writes "According to Wired, the widespread Internet Explorer security exploit last week and CERT's subsequent recommendation that IE users should consider switching to another browser has resulted in a large spike in downloads of the Mozilla Organization's Mozilla and Firefox web browsers."

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  1. Amazing...BTW, if you haven't used.. by Dagny+Taggert · · Score: 4, Informative

    Firefox, you need to do yourself a favor. Flawless pop-up blocking, the beauty of tabbed browsing...real standards implementation...the list goes on and on. Now, if only Windows would be declared a national security risk...

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  2. Re:DUPE!... well, mostly. by arieswind · · Score: 5, Informative

    That was CERT's announcement, this is actually the Department of Homeland Security making this recoomendation. 2 different orginizations, same recommendation.

  3. Firefox will install with 'power user' access by tabdelgawad · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those considering installing Firefox on Win2k PCs they don't have 'administrator' accounts on, I can report that it installs and works perfectly well from a 'power user' account. Perfect for those considering an installation on a work PC.

    You should probably find out if IE uses any work-related proxy-server and change that setting manually in Firefox once the install is complete.

    Happy browsing!

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  4. Re:If it's broke...well....we'll fix it later by jo42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Repeat after me: Global Class Action Lawsuit against Microsoft. Bunch of bumbling fubars. And that ain't the only whole they haven't plugged in months...

  5. A fix for IE?? by Sergeant+Beavis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft released a fix for this issue today. Basically it disables the ADODB.Stream object. However, it requires a regedit to implement. I imagine a hotfix is forthcomming. Still, Firefox and Mozilla don't suck at all, so people should at least use this as an excuse to give them a try IMO.

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  6. Re:Bad Bureaucrat! Naughty! by Gropo · · Score: 4, Informative
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  7. Firefox's Gestures by Ruonkrak · · Score: 4, Informative

    After making the switch to Mozilla Firefox and using it for two days, I'm hooked. I downloaded the All-in-One Gestures extension, and I can't for the life of me figure out how I ever lived without it. It's a whole new paradigm in browsing. This is another milestone in the MS exodus towards open source and Linux. Disclaimer: I do not work for Mozilla... just a satisfied user.

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  8. Re:If it's broke...well....we'll fix it later by mge · · Score: 4, Informative

    "In the meantime, we have provided customers with prescriptive guidance to help mitigate these issues."

    Ummm... I don't think so.... here is a link to the US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#713878 which (I think) is where this all starts. Go right to the bottom (OK, this is slashdot, so I'll cut-and-paste)

    Use a different web browser

    There are a number of significant vulnerabilities in technologies relating to the IE domain/zone security model, the DHTML object model, MIME type determination, and ActiveX. It is possible to reduce exposure to these vulnerabilities by using a different web browser, especially when browsing untrusted sites. Such a decision may, however, reduce the functionality of sites that require IE-specific features such as DHTML, VBScript, and ActiveX. Note that using a different web browser will not remove IE from a Windows system, and other programs may invoke IE, the WebBrowser ActiveX control, or the HTML rendering engine (MSHTML).


    The way I read that last sentence, CERT say you are not safe unless you get rid of the IE6 functionality.

  9. True.. but you're forgetting one thing. by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're right, but remember that they cannot run anything unless they have a brilliant and ingenious way to transform jpegs and boldface text into an infection.

    NO ACTIVE X. That means no sneaky little programs in your system.

    The open source movement is well on top of issues like this... always have been.

    Also, politically speaking, the open sourcers and black hats are cousins on different sides of a moral question. Virus writers and spyware jockeys don't go out and try to attack open source. They know what they are up against. They prey on the weak.

    Remember, Open Source is dragging Microsoft down on a mayonnaise sandwich budget. They know who not to mess with.

    Now if we could only get Homeland Security to start talking about OUTLOOK EXPRESS, then I would dance a jig.

  10. To help convince non-techie users... by danielrm26 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's my piece I did on the topic about a week before the CERT announcement:

    http://www.dmiessler.com/reading/ie.html

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  11. Mozilla is vulnerable too by stecoop · · Score: 4, Informative

    Alternative browsers such as Mozilla or Netscape may not protect users, the agency warned, if those browsers invoke ActiveX control or HTML rendering engines

    Did anyone RTFM from the Yahoo link. It says at the very bottom that Mozilla is vulnerable too. I use Mozilla myself but it appears that the real culpret is ActiveX which you can install on Mozilla. I don't think this plug in will work on platforms other than windows so it's really a platform issue.

    1. Re:Mozilla is vulnerable too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Uh, it is reported that the trojan only automatically installs itself with IE. For other browsers, you have to download and run a GIF image that is disgused as an EXE with the infamouse double-extension social engineering trick.

      Did you read the page you linked to?
      This plugin is included with Netscape 7.1, and is configured to only work with the Windows Media Player control.
  12. link to the US-CERT announcement by tcyun · · Score: 4, Informative

    a link (http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/323070) to the US-CERT pub recommendation. It is also interesting to note that the suggestion to "use a different web broswer" is the last offered (see section III. Solution).

  13. Re:Yeah Right by armypuke · · Score: 5, Informative

    Same here in the Army. But you are expecting a LOT if you think that the military will change the web browser overnight.

    First a committee/team has to be put together to verify the recommendation not to use IE. Then an alternative will have to be selected. This means another committee/team will have to determine what the alternatives are. Once the alternative web browsers are identified, they will have to be tested to make sure that they are secure and compatible they are. This testing can very depending on how indepth they go and how soon they realize that a large number of military web sites are IE only!! Once a replacement browser is selected, a Plan of Action has to be determined to figure out how the new web browser will be installed and how the completed installation is reported back up the chain of command. Once all of this has been completed, it will then be briefed to the head shed at the Pentagon who will then make some modifications before giving an order that all computers have a new web browser installed.

    This doesn't take into account any turf battles that may come up during this process, fixing all of the IE only military web sites, complaints and stubborn refusal from users (IE will have to be completely removed otherwise people will still use it), all of the modifications to the Plan of Action as it goes down the chain of command, the several weeks it will take for each DOIM and unit to figure out how they are going to implement the Plan of Action, DoD civilians.....

    It should take the military a few months to install a new web browser.....

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  14. Re:Bad Bureaucrat! Naughty! by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://johnkerry.com was running Apache on Linux when last queried at 26-Jun-2004 10:33:54 GMT

    http://georgewbush.com was running Microsoft-IIS on Windows 2000 when last queried at 25-Jun-2004 13:05:27 GMT

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  15. CERT gave the warning nearly a month ago by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Department of Homeland Security's U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team touched off a storm this week when it recommended for security reasons using browsers other than Microsoft's Internet Explorer.

    CERT gave the warning on June 10 . BBC reported this on June 14 .

  16. Re:Closed captioned for the PR impared by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/323070 says in boldface "Use a different web browser".

    I don't think the media misreported that.