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Titan's Surface Revealed

MattKeeler writes "NASA's running a story on the recent findings of Cassini, the satellite orbiting Titan, one of Saturn's giant moons. New images reveal details of the moon's surface and a variety of materials that cover it."

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  1. Dupe?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative
    Seen this before?

    /. par for the course again :)

    dupe + fp = ninja?

  2. Re:Sirens! by Nspace13 · · Score: 1, Informative

    they're at the bottom of the pool, they are just statues anyway. rock on fellow vonnegut reader

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  3. False-color picture by wazlaf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Too bad this is only a false-color image and has no relation to the colors visible to the human eye. While this is probably nice too look at for scientists in order to do some research, it leaves the rest of us clueless about "What Titan really looks like"..

    1. Re:False-color picture by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Informative

      Too bad this is only a false-color image and has no relation to the colors visible to the human eye.

      There are pictures corresponding to approximately what the human eye would see - kind of boring, and similar to the pictures taken by Voyager 2. The improvement in Cassini's false-colour pictures is due to the use an infra-red camera and some carefully tuned filters, letting the spacecraft peer straight through Titan's distinctly murky atmosphere. This is the breakthrough - it's finally possible to figure out what's under that atmosphere, and at high resolution too!

      The preliminary maps of Titan from Cassini's imagery are already beating the best images taken from Earth - including the astounding images taken from ground-based telescopes by the European Southern Observatory. Interestingly, features on the different maps do match up - which definitely shows that they're real feature, and not random camera artefacts.

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    2. Re:False-color picture by eidolons · · Score: 5, Informative

      To see what Titan looks like we'll have to wait for Cassini to start making its closer fly-bys. I think the article said Cassini will do 45 or so fly-bys in the next 4 years and they'll get to around 600 miles away. That'll allow some very high resolution images of Titan and will be really interesting - this is still too far away to make any really revealing below-atmospheric level observations, as the atmosphere is so opaque and dense.

  4. Re:Sirens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    someone (moderator!) doesn't read. this should have been modded funny or left alone. the sirens of titan is an extrememly famous book by kurt vonnegut, and they were really just statues. jesus people don't mod what you don't understand.

  5. Busted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=113425 &cid=9606847

    If you're going to crib a post from an earlier story at least try to get one that wasn't posted the day before.

  6. Re:Cassini is Orbiting SATURN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "NASA's running a story on the recent findings of Cassini, the satellite orbiting Titan, one of Saturn's giant moons. New images reveal details of the moon's surface and a variety of materials that cover it."

    Right, the parent said it. Cassini is orbiting Saturn, and does flybys of Titan. Cassini is on a complicated looping orbit so it can slingshot around the Saturn minisystem and visit the interesting moons.

    Details can be found at:
    http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/operations/saturn- tour. cfm

  7. Re:Woah by torpor · · Score: 3, Informative


    Titan isn't habitable, you say?

    I thought Titan was one of the reasons hydrothermal vents were so interesting?

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  8. Not offtopic by spellraiser · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ok, this is the last time I try to post a literary reference on slashdot. Don't you people read books?

    Check this out. Good book. Read it.

    And stop modding stuff down just because you don't get the reference.

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  9. Orbiting Titan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Incorrect. Cassini just started orbiting SATURN. Cassini has a probe that NASA plans on launching late this fall to puncture Titan's clouds and land on the surface.

  10. Re:Woah by pyr0 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I believe you are actually thinking of Europa, a moon of Jupiter. It is thought there is an ocean of liquid water beneath the icy crust. Thus, if there are any hydrothermal vents at the bottom of this ocean, there may be life.

    The interest in Titan, as the article points out, is that it is thought to contain a frozen snapshot of pre-life forming compounds similar to what was around in Earth's atmosphere ~4 billion years ago.

  11. Re:Titans Cloud. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they're saying that the cloud of particles following Titan around in its orbit is larger that Saturn and rings. Titan orbits Saturn at about 1.2 million km, and Saturn's rings (and thus presumably the cloud) are about 150 thousand km in radius. So the could isn't surrounding Saturn, it's surrounding Titan and following Titan in its orbit.

    Still pretty neat, there's a giant gas cloud as big as the planet orbiting it.

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  12. Re:Who's to say it isn't inhabitable? by GregChant · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those clouds of gas, as you call them, are believed to be methane, which is supposedly the primary ingredient of its atmosphere. If you could light a match on Titan, the whole moon would be engulfed in fire faster than you could say "who farted?"

    Titan is believed to be one of the most inhospitable worlds in the solar system: I wouldn't go planning your vacation just yet.

    But, to answer your question, from the ESA:
    Diameter (atmosphere): 5550 km
    Diameter (surface): 5150 km
    Mass: 1/45 that of Earth
    Average density: 1.881 times liquid water
    Surface temperature: 94K (-180 degrees C)
    Atmospheric pressure at surface: 1500 mbar (1.5 times Earth's)
    Atmospheric composition: Nitrogen, methane, traces of ammonia, argon, ethane

  13. Re:Who's to say it isn't inhabitable? by aiabx · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wouldn't worry too much about Titan bursting into flames. While there is lots of methane, there isn't very much in the way of oxygen, which you need to burn the methane. If you think about it, if the atmsophere were that explosive, a meteor would have set it off billions of years ago.
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  14. Landing on Titan by JC_England · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Huygens probe is:

    Made by ESA (The European Space Agency);
    Due for release on Christmas day IIRC;
    Will enter Titan's atmosphere about 21 days later;
    Will live for less than 4 hours while (hopefully) parachuting down to the surface;
    Should give us "ground truth" to compare with all the Cassini remote sensing.

  15. Re:Three times redder than they human eye can see? by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2, Informative

    Visible 'red' light is around .65 to maybe .75 micrometers. So are they are saying 2.1um or so?

    I do wish these articles would just say what they mean and not try to make it seem more 'amazing' with fuzzy statements like that. It's like "WOW! THREE TIMES REDDER!" - when in fact, near IR is nothing special - most cheap camcorders can take pretty good pictures in that frequency range.


    Silicon photodetectors, like the silicon CCD chips in camcorders, have a cutoff at about 1.1 micron. They won't see 2.1 micron infrared.

    Furthermore, John Q. Public reading that press release will have no idea what a "micron" is, but probably _will_ get the general idea from a phrase like "three times redder". If you want an accurate description of what's going on, why on earth are you reading a press blurb?

  16. Re:Chances for life? by barakn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Regarding hotspots, see my post to original (not this dupe) story . All active living organisms on Earth contains liquid water within the interior of their cells. At 94 K liquid water is impossible, and it's hard to imagine life occuring in a solid phase. This leaves something truly exotic: cells filled with an organic solvent such as ethane, which is not nearly as good a solvent or catalyst as water. Such an organism seems unlikely.

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