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Wikipedia Hits 300,000 Articles

Raul654 writes "Today Wikipedia reached the 300,000 article mark. Wikipedia is a 3-year-old non-profit project to build an encyclopedia using WikiWiki software. All text is licensed under the GFDL. It has everything that a traditional encyclopedia would, but also many things that would never get written about, such as Crushing by elephant and the GNU/Linux naming controversy. For size comparisons, the English Wikipedia has 90.1 million words across 300,000 articles, compared to Britannica's 55 million words across 85,000 articles. (All the languages combined together reach 790,000 articles.) For much of the first half of 2004, Wikipedia's growth has outstripped server capacity - however, the shortage of PHP/MySQL developers is probably the biggest long term problem facing the project. Slashdot had previously reported when Wikipedia reached the 200,000 mark."

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  1. Size doesn't matters by PissingInTheWind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For size comparisons, the English Wikipedia has 90.1 million words across 300,000 articles, compared to Britannica's 55 million words across 85,000 articles.

    Yes, but Britannica's 85,000 articles are credible and verified for accuracy, while some of Wikipedia's content should be questionned.

    Wikipedia is still my favorite surfing destination to kill time.

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    1. Re:Size doesn't matters by managementboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I am not trying to be an ass, but anything written by people you don't know should be questioned. I guess that is one of the first things one should learn in school.
      I do also question Britannica's content as it was written by people years ago... here are some examples I can not check myself: Letters to Eb
      On a happy note: Wikipedia allows you to correct "wrong" artikles... has anyone tried this with Britannica? (use pencil, that atleast can be rubbed out by the librarian)

    2. Re:Size doesn't matters by cgadd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You should probably question some of Britannica's content too!

      Britannica Errors

    3. Re:Size doesn't matters by misterpies · · Score: 3, Insightful


      >>Wikipedia's articles can be (and some are) checked over by hundreds and theoretically an infinite number of people.

      Can be, yes. But are they? And do the people checking them over actually have the knowledge to do so properly? At least with Britannica I can be fairly confident that the article was written by an expert in the field. With Wikipedia it may well have been written by some guy with spare time on his hands, enthusiasm, but not much knowledge. Or worse, it may have been written by an expert and then "corrected" by Jo Schmo.

      The problem with Wikipedia as a knowledge resource is that by definition it will always gravitate towards reflecting the majority view of what is correct. Popular myths will always win out over unpopular truths.

      Compare Wikipedia with open-source software, for example. For a well-run OSS project, anyone can submit changes but they will be properly vetted and reviewd and only put on public release if approved. But with Wikipedia, anyone can make a change and have it reflected immediately. Without a proper system of review, it can never be anything more than a collection of popularly-held views on well-known topics and the opinions of a few nonrepresentative individuals on esoteric ones.

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  2. Difference between Wikipedia and journalism by Anonymous+Cowdog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember that old advice about how you can understand how (in)accurate the media really is? Find a subject you know very well, and see how many mistakes they make when they cover it. When you realize that the media makes mistakes of that same magnitude on virtually every story they cover, not just on the stories in your topic... well, it's an eye opener.

    Wikipedia, from that standpoint, is at the opposite end of the spectrum from traditional, commercial journalism. Its authors have all the time in the world to get things right, check facts, correct bad wording, improve clarity. The quality of the entries is generally astounding. And if anything is wrong with an entry, we readers can become writers and correct it ourselves! Very nice. Thanks, fellow Wikipedia contributors!

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  4. The topic is somewhat misleading by presroi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Wikipedia Hits 300,000 Articles" is not accurate.

    There is no doubt about that the English edition of wikipedia (which is the largest one by a huge margin) has reached 300K articles yesterday as the result of a great collaborative effort.

    However, Wikipedia reached 300K articles a while ago and the text itself is correct to take not that all languages put together are now around 800K more or less.

    Most communication is done in English, sure but I consider the fact that wikipedia is an international, multilingual project much higher than this single number.

    We might see a point in the future where other languages might catch up regarding the size (or quality) of the English one. I would not be surprised to see a language like Hindi or Mandarin gaining speed sooner or later.

  5. Re:Big Deal! by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Wikipedia is the internet equivalent of The National Enquirer.

    I think that the Wikipedia is the single most remarkable book ever to emerge from the Internet. Though, given the way it's written, it can only be expected to contain much that is apocryphal, or at least wildly inaccurate...

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  6. Re:Goverment Funding by isopossu · · Score: 5, Insightful
    No no no! No government messing with Wikipedia! Of course if they give money, they have some kind of right to say what to write there

    Keeping this kind of site up isn't so expensive. Many of us web people are having quite a good salaries in IT or other science/tech jobs. Lets keep on donating!

  7. Re:Congrats! by danheskett · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And what, traditional encyclopedia's are going to be more entirely balanced?

    You've got a much better chance of getting a well-vetted response on Wikipedia than anywhere else I know of...

  8. Re:Neutral Viewpoint by u38cg · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Umm.

    NPOV is about preserving access to the truth in the face of forces that would distort it in favour of their own opinions. I don't think any would disagree that 2+2=4. However, you might see people disagree over, say, [[2001 presidential election]]. Or [[abortion]]. Or whatever. NPOV is about making sure the facts get set out and one side's opinions are not skewing the picture. More difficult than it sounds.

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  9. Re:Congrats! by dpm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every piece of communication is biased, but I would worry much less in the Wikipedia than in a traditional closed encyclopedia for a couple of reasons:

    1. articles tend to reach an equilibrium as people with different views edit and reedit; and
    2. every past version of each article is still available, so I can *see* how people have changed the article over time.

    In other words, many authors make for more balanced articles, the same way that many eyes make for more robust software.

    There is also a large core of volunteer editors who copyedit new submissions and remove vandalism -- yesterday, some of my new articles were edited (up to professional standards) within minutes of my posting them, and then improved with additional links and information.

  10. One thing I've missed with Wikipedia... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...or at least that I haven't found, is the option to link to one specific version of an entry. Have it auto-add some banner on top "This is the entry as of dd.mm.yyyy hh:mm, click HERE to go to the current version".

    Why? Because it's always annoying to link to some article there, only to bring a hoard of trolls down on them. Yes, the page is reverted fast as well but there's nothing like trying to make a serious link only to have it replaced by goatse ASCII art.

    I don't mean that should be used for long-term links. But it'd be very nice to be able to link to a "good" version of a page in say, a slashdot comment valid for a couple hours. For one, you can put it in a static page cache, reducing load in case of slashdotting-like crowds following it.

    It is also a better experience for those following the link to read, and you're one step away from the current version (which is unlikely to have changed in that short timespan) should you wish to edit/add to it, without making the current page attractive to trolls.

    Hell, you could even make these links "expire" if you want, redirecting to the current version instead. That way, you don't have links pointing to age-old versions. Just give it a reasonable timeframe and it'll be a much more attractive link target for articles in "serious" publications as well. Just my 0.02 NOK.

    Kjella

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  11. funny thing is ... by brunokummel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that i never noticed the Wikipedia before until today when i recognized the little puzzle globe on the left of the page.

    Many of my searches on google would end up there but I never payed much attention to the site itself, since i was focusing on the subject i was looking for...

    good to know that Wikipedia has helped me before even though i never actually asked for its help in particular, this shows how efficient it really is since many of its resources are available through other search engines.

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  12. Re:Congrats! by metamatic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course, there's an implicit assumption that truth (or reality) is that which the greatest number of people agree with.

    I happen to disagree with that assumption. I think that there are a many subjects regarding which the vast majority of people are not just ignorant, but hold false beliefs as true.

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  13. Re:Wikipedia as a new mode of knowledge by vidarh · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think the point about realism here is that it's not realistic to assume that a printed encyclopedia will be exact because knowledge isn't static, objective and free from change - very few things can be stated as absolute fact, and most of the content in an encyclopedia will represent a particular viewpoint favored when the encyclopedia was last published.

    Thus an evolving, ever changing encyclopedia may better reflect reality than one which presents you with a static view of what some editor happened to think was the prevailing view at a specific instance in time possibly years ago.

    You might be better off trusting a source that is constantly edited and where you have complete access to the discussions and every single revision so you can see how and why it has changed over time, and get a better picture of what should be questioned.