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Outfox, Outsearch With Firefox

Scrivs writes "This article goes into detail showing users how to effectively utilize the hidden search powers of Firefox. Instead of using the basic search that just sends you to an 'I'm Feeling Lucky' page from Google, you can customize the browser to perform any type of search you want."

55 comments

  1. A little disingenuous by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 3, Informative

    All of this is core Mozilla functionality that can be done in the stock browser from Mozilla. Why the divisive attitudes on Firefox vs Mozilla anyway? It's like the vi vs emacs of the browser world.

    1. Re:A little disingenuous by showdax · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is no "Firefox versus Mozilla" attitude. Both use similar code but have different uses. One's a stand-alone browser, the other is a suite of web-related programs.

      The article applies to both, as you said, but is just advertising what is popular.

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    2. Re:A little disingenuous by ctr2sprt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right, but vi and emacs are very different. Moz and Firefox are virtually identical, as long as you limit yourself to web browsing. It's really more like talking about two different versions of the same product rather than two separate products. A more apt comparison would be Emacs and XEmacs, though Moz and Firefox are much more similar. And of course, Moz is going to be replaced by Firefox et al. Real Soon Now, probably in time for the first Duke Nukem Forever patch, so if you have to choose just one I guess it makes the most sense to choose Firefox.

    3. Re:A little disingenuous by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Opera vs Firefox might be vi vs. emacs. Firefox vs. mozilla (vs. Netscape) is more like emacs vs. xemacs.

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    4. Re:A little disingenuous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Moz is going to be replaced by Firefox et al. Real Soon Now"

      I doubt that. A lot of people like the suite better, and many organizations have standardized on it. mozilla.org haven't updated the roadmap yet, but the suite isn't going away any time soon.

      Firefox fanatics like to push Firefox, but I much prefer the suite. Even if I used separate e-mail, usenet, and IRC programs, I wouldn't use Firefox. Firefox is just too annoying.

    5. Re:A little disingenuous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "All of this is core Mozilla functionality that can be done in the stock browser from Mozilla."

      Yes, but it's self-explanatory how to do these things in Mozilla, but require digging through arcane settings in about:config in Firefox.

      "It's like the vi vs emacs of the browser world."

      No, I think Mozilla vs. Opera is the vi vs emacs of the browser world. But I don't understand the Mozilla versus Firefox attitude either. I guess they know that Mozilla is better, but are trying to push Firefox to the niche who only wants to shop and use an on-line e-mail service.

    6. Re:A little disingenuous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I thought I'd made myself clear with the DNF reference. Mozilla --> Firefox+Thunderbird+Whatever is the official plan, but it shows no signs of ever becoming reality.

      We don't disagree.

  2. MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parent is a known troll!

  3. keyword.URL by Trikenstein · · Score: 0

    gets me a blank page....

    1. Re:keyword.URL by DeadSea · · Score: 2, Informative

      1. go to about:config
      2. filter: keyword.URL
      3. Change the value

      Did you forget the about:config step?

    2. Re:keyword.URL by Trikenstein · · Score: 1

      I followed those steps exactly Step 3 is a blank page

  4. Find As You Type by Thyamine · · Score: 4, Informative

    My favorite feature is being able to type text directly on the webpage and having it search within the webpage for matching text. By default it only searches links, but you can change that by going into Tools -> Options -> Advanced and making sure that Find As You Type is set to not 'search links only'.

    Not using a search engine, I know, but it drives my nuts that when I'm forced to use IE I have to use the CTRL-F Find window.

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    1. Re:Find As You Type by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I too cannot live without this. You can also hit '/' (just like vim) before your search string to search all text, and retain the ability to search only links by omitting '/', which is occasionally useful.

    2. Re:Find As You Type by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      ' (apostrophe) also searches for links only.

    3. Re:Find As You Type by isorox · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you normally only want to go to links, which is useful when you aren't using a mouse, you can always find text by pressing "/" before searching

    4. Re:Find As You Type by raddan · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Not using a search engine, I know, but it drives my nuts that when I'm forced to use IE I have to use the CTRL-F Find window.

      Speaking of driving one's nuts, here's a little joke:

      One day a pirate walks into a bar. He sits down at the counter, shitfing uncomfortably in his seat. The bartender notices this, and then comes to the realization that, in fact, the pirate has a steering wheel shoved down his pants. His curiosity piqued, the bartender asks the pirate, "Hey, why do you have a steering wheel down your pants? Isn't that uncomfortable?" to which the pirate replies, "Arr!!! It's driving me nuts!"

      Snare, crash. Thank you.

    5. Re:Find As You Type by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was a good one. Thanks.

  5. Very useful by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been using most of those features for a quite a while now.

    Most important are FindAsYouType and the Keywords.
    I've made keywords for:
    google, google i'm feeling lucky, dictionary.com, acronymfinder, urbandictionary, wikipedia and goole images.
    It's very nice to write something like "img pr0n" and get many pics or "wiki slashdot" to get these precious pieces of information.
    Some sites don't have a simple way to search them so for now I they don't have keywords :.

    The autocomplete deletion thingy is new for me. I've checked and it works both for URLs completed in the URL bar and for standard autocomplete textboxes.

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    1. Re:Very useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's very nice to write something like "img pr0n"

      Make sure the images.google.com URL includes "&safe=off" at the end. Like so:

      http://images.google.com/images?q=%s&safe=off
      That way you can get uncensored images without being subjected to their cookies.
  6. is tweaking unsupported? by TreeHead · · Score: 4, Informative

    ;why no documentation? though i am personally not opposed to searching for or reading tips on modifying the browser, i wonder why "tweaks" like this aren't documented in the help.

    ;are actions such as modifying the chrome or about:config considered "unsupported" by the developers at mozilla? curious...

    ;i would never have found out about how cool firefox keywords are without this article, for instance.

    ;ok, i guess mod me down... i didn't have much to say :)

    ;treehead

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    1. Re:is tweaking unsupported? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      preferential.mozdev.org is a good source for hidden Mozilla and Firefox preferences.

    2. Re:is tweaking unsupported? by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heh.. I don't like posting links to my own posts (actually I do, lol) but here's a pretty extensive post about features that come or don't come by default in Mozilla and Firefox specifically.

      Mod me down for self-linkage if you want, but I know it helped at least one Firefox newbie go from "this firefox thing is nice" to "woah! this program rocks!"

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  7. I should add by Trikenstein · · Score: 1

    That I can scroll down thru the list and find keyword.URL, but following those steps doesn't display it alone.

    1. Re:I should add by DeadSea · · Score: 1

      weird. How about just filtering for keyword. When I do that, mine has two entries.

    2. Re:I should add by Trikenstein · · Score: 1
      I get 2 listings from keyword also.

      I think its probably because I am copy / pasting keyword.URL into the filter field.

      It shouldn't make any difference, but it does.

    3. Re:I should add by DeadSea · · Score: 1

      You might want to check for leading/trailing spaces. If I have any of those, my filter also turns up no results. Probably easy to pick up one or two of them with copy and paste.

  8. Keywords are handy by skamp · · Score: 1

    I implemented custom keywords some time ago, which I use constantly.

  9. quicksearch and elinks by BinLadenMyHero · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have been using these features since phoenix0.5 days.
    Quicksearches I use:

    fm http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=%s&section=projects
    man http://linux.ctyme.com/cgi-swish/linuxdoc.cgi?quer y=%s&sort=swishlastmodified&reverse=on
    cpan http://search.cpan.org/search?query=%s&mode=module
    w http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%s
    e2 http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=%s
    dic http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=%s

    google:
    g http://www.google.com/search?&q=%s
    l http://www.google.com/linux?q=%s
    img http://images.google.com/images?q=%s
    def http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A%s

    Also, when on a text console, I made a script to perform similar function: google.sh.
    Tip: symlink it to different names to make your life easier.

    1. Re:quicksearch and elinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Also, when on a text console, I made a script to perform similar function: google.sh.

      Nice script. Perhaps a case statement might tidy all those if-elifs.

    2. Re:quicksearch and elinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh... I've been using these since at least Opera 6.

      Just another way Opera was well ahead of it's time. I wonder what else is hidden away in there that no-one has even bothered to check out because all they see on slashdot is "Mozilla rocks!".

  10. Trip by FrenZon · · Score: 1

    If you want to access your quicksearches* even faster, I humbly submit a super early version of Trip, which lets Windows users enter URLs without having to wait for a browser to open, or having to use their mouse to select an input field (which, even if it takes half a second, is half a second too long).

    Impatient people who like to optimise things seem to find it useful, others don't.

    * FireFox doesn't allow launching quicksearches from external apps, whereas IE does, so Trip implements quicksearches itself.

  11. Best search option missing by Chelloveck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What? No mention of Googlebar? For shame, forevergeek!

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  12. Nice by Ratbert42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now can someone point me to an article that will make Firefox 0.9 render Slashdot properly?

    1. Re:Nice by gmhowell · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Nice by makapuf · · Score: 1

      Haven't you seen ? There's a new firefox today !

    3. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Now can someone point me to an article that will make Firefox 0.9 render Slashdot properly?

      It's called Firefox 0.9.1

  13. Anyone know how to... by Trikenstein · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Display bookmarks in a non-tree format?

    I click bookmarks, scroll down to manage bookmarks, and use that window to use them.
    I have a LOT of bookmarks, with a lot of dirs and sub-dirs. Trying to navigate them from the tool bar is a pain.
    Its also a pain in the manage bookmarks window, but less so.

    Is there any way to display them in a explorer like list mode?

    1. Re:Anyone know how to... by otisg · · Score: 1

      Aha, good question! In-browser bookmark managers suck. Try Simpy (see my sig), and all your bookmark, folder, hierarchies and other troubles will be history!

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  14. Find as you type by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bit offtopic, but I noticed the Firefox information page refers to "Find As You Type" as FastFind. WTF is that about? Sounds a bit too much like marketing speak.

  15. It would be nice ... by Jahf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If firefox wasn't -quite- so limited on it's pref UI. Mozilla has too many default configuration items and Firefox has too few.

    I know about about:config, but my father will probably never get it (and he's a geek from the old days, he's just tired of fidgeting with hidden widgets).

    A simple entry in the tools/options menu that says "advanced features" which pulled up about:config in a separate window along with better documentation and some tweaks to the UI display for about:config to allow deep help searches would be enough.

    Something to make it easier for the non-expert (not necessarily newbie) to realize all the power hidden under the hood and some more explanations on what things do.

    I would like to see a few more items in the Firefox pref UI as well, like more of the tabbed browsing parameters, but if not possible then the above would be sufficient.

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    1. Re:It would be nice ... by belroth · · Score: 1
      A simple entry in the tools/options menu that says "advanced features" which pulled up about:config in a separate window along with better documentation and some tweaks to the UI display for about:config to allow deep help searches would be enough.
      I agree about the latter part but it's easy enough to create a bookmark for about:config and put that on the personal toolbar if you like.
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    2. Re:It would be nice ... by Jahf · · Score: 1

      The point isn't making it easier for people who know about it :) The point is to bring the interface to people who are smart enough to use it but haven't taken the time to learn the weirdnesses.

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  16. textareas??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK this is wonderful, but...

    Why can't I search the contents of a textarea???

  17. Opera was here first by JohnQPublic · · Score: 1

    It's nice to see this appear in Free/Open Software, but just like tabbed browsing, Opera had the search thing licked first. And it's a lot easier to choose an alternative search engine (although it isn't infinitely configurable like Firefox). And I love the "right click and choose 'Search' or 'Search with'" model that Opera 7 has.

    1. Re:Opera was here first by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      (although it isn't infinitely configurable like Firefox)

      Can you explain what you mean by this? I've not had any trouble adding new search engines, or using them as defaults...

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    2. Re:Opera was here first by JohnQPublic · · Score: 1

      Using already-defined search engines? Sure. But defining your own? I don't see any way to do it, and the Opera help system says there isn't (ref.http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch .dml?index=351). I run 7.50, which isn't the newest but it's darn close.

      Prove me wrong - I'd love to know how!

    3. Re:Opera was here first by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      Sure! Close Opera and edit the search.ini file (closing Opera may not be a requirement, but it often is for other ini files, so it's better to be safe). There are multiple copies of this file strewn about, so which one you edit depends on whether you asked Opera to use the same settings for every user. If so, use the file in programs\Opera, otherwise use the file in your profile's application data\Opera folder.

      I've removed every default item they gave me (except google of course), and added items for IMDB, dictionary.com, google images, and more. I think Opera just had trouble coming up with a nice UI for editing these - most users aren't going to like or be capable of adding URLs with variable placeholders.

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  18. I've made my own Firefox sidebar (HTML) ... by Jon_Aquino · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... containing bookmarks and *bookmarklets* (Click here) So select some text and click "Google". Or if you're in the Google search results, click the "@" beside Yahoo to change to the Yahoo search results. Or select some text then click "TTS" to get it read out to you. If you're a Blogger user, click "BlogPage" to create a blog entry for the current page. Click "ACF" to create a Usenet post for alt.comp.freeware. etc.

  19. Keyword Repository by ajayrockrock · · Score: 1

    I'm helping out with the Mozilla Keyword Repository. Right now it's a Wiki where you can add your own keywords:
    http://wormus.com/leakytap/Internet/CustomKeywords

    There's also a version of the list that you can import directly into your bookmarks.

    --Ajay

  20. Bookmark Sidebar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there any way to display them in a explorer like list mode?

    To view your Bookmarks in a sidebar, like in Explorer, do the following.

    On the menu bar, select View->Sidebar->Bookmarks, or use the keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+B

    1. Re:Bookmark Sidebar by Trikenstein · · Score: 1
      Thanks, but that's still a tree.

      Scroll way up, scroll way down, expand branch, expand branch, scroll right, scroll left.

      I'm hoping they have an explorer list mode on the things to do list....

  21. Windows applet (freebeerware) does this too by Grabble · · Score: 1



    Acutesearch adds this functionality to IE.

    Netcaptor also has this functionality built-in, along with tabbed browsing and pop-up killing.

    Other than wanting good products to thrive and geeks to be happy, I have no interest in these products.

    I, I know, people shouldn't use IE.

  22. That feature freaked me out by T.Hobbes · · Score: 2, Informative

    The "I'm feeling lucky" feature freaked me out the other day. I'd typed a search string into the address bar, expecting to be taken to a google search results page, but was instead broguht to (what seemed to be) a random webpage. I couldn't find any mention of address bar search functions in the prefs, so I explored some more... and when, after typing "web search" into the bar and being brought to a spyware site, I thought my copy of firefox had been infected somehow. Futher tests revealed the truth, but for a short while I thought the gecko safe-harbour had been invaded.

  23. in all fairness by the+quick+brown+fox · · Score: 1
    Internet Explorer has had the QuickSearch feature ("g foo" searches google for "foo") for several years, although for some bizarre reason they didn't surface it in the UI. You had to download a PowerToy for IE that was simply a UI for editing registry keys that IE was already checking.

    If you still (are forced to) use IE, an easier way to tap into QuickSearch these days is here.

  24. Sign up with Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only one army's marching into and destroying Redmond and being led by a giant red lizard. We'll let you fat ladies sing when we win, though.