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Japanese Schoolchildren to be Tagged with RFID

oostevo writes "CNET has reported that Japanese schoolchildren in the city of Osaka will be tagged with RFID tags. Apparently this is in addition to the trial program in Tabe that The Register reported earlier, where parents can track their children on their way to school."

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  1. Fun in the school by r00zky · · Score: 3, Informative

    1. Copy the RFID tag of a classmate
    2. Change it for yours when you're out of school.
    3. Enter the max. number of shops/places considered "dangerous" for you in one day.
    4. Restore your RFID before going home.
    5. Make fun of the poor bastard the next day of class

    No profit but lots of fun

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  2. Used in the US for years, but for cattle by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    Digital Angel tried selling this for kids a few years ago. But it turned out the big market was cows and pigs.

    With a few slight mods to the screen formats, the Online Herd Management System should be applicable to schools.

  3. It's called "reducto ad absurdum" by Gogl · · Score: 3, Informative

    Aand it was actually relatively skillfully done, in my opinion at least. You refute an argument by showing how its logic leads to absurdity. The argument isn't meant to provide a serious assertion, but rather an obviously silly assertion that reflects badly on the argument it is replying to.

  4. How Japanese Students Get to School by KingDork2K3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As an English teacher at a Japanese elementary school, I'd like to explain a few things about how the commuting works for students here.

    Almost no kids in Japanese public schools are driven to school by their parents. It is not against the rules, but is generally discouraged. Public schools generally do not have buses, though some students will take a bus if their parents can afford it and they live far from school. Middle and high school students might bike or take a train, but those are often off-limits for elementary students, who must either walk or come by bus (Kids generally go to the local elementary/middle school, but there are exams for high school, which might require a long trip every day).

    In my small rural town (pop. 7000), and in many other places, elementary and middle school students who are walking/biking must follow certain routes to and from school. Teachers are posted at locations along the route to check up on the students. But, they can't be everywhere. The middle school in my town has recently had problems with middle-aged men approaching female students. Students are out in the open for a much longer period of time than in the US and are thus bigger targets.

    That said, I don't want to see my students given RFID tags. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it became very popular here. Elementary and middle school students already have tags with their full name and the school's name on it which must be worn at all times. Also, nearly all middle and high schools have uniforms. With all this required attire, it's hard for students to go someplace after school that they're not supposed to be, and this is part of the point. People will even sometimes complain to a school if they see its students doing something they don't approve of. There is already a lot of monitoring in place here, and I don't see this as being a big shift.

    Related article -
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle. pl5 ?ek20040520ag.htm

    PS - It's not that important, but the CNET article is poorly written and unclear. Osaka city and Wakayama prefecture are completely seperate places, but someone who knows very little about Japan might think that Osaka city is the small "town" in Wakayama where the RFID tags are being tested. Anyone have a better article?

  5. Re:progress by harikiri · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's a reference to a cult japanese film. :)

    Battle Royale

    The basic plot is this... students have rebelled against the government and "adults", so the govt invoked the battle royale act. Each year, one class of year 9 school students is shipped to a remote island and told that they have to kill each other off. They're all 'tagged' with exploding necklaces that also function as tracking devices for those monitoring the "game". If any more than a single student remains alive after the final (third) day, all the necklaces explode...

    It comes down to whether you could kill your own friends...

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  6. Re:People may complain but.. by shostiru · · Score: 4, Informative
    You got modded insightful for that? Sheesh.

    Media attention to the contrary, kidnapping isn't that common, and when it does occur it's usually done by a parent or relative. The introduction of Amber Alert programs has greatly increased media coverage of kidnappings; an unfortunate side effect of this is a mistaken perception that kidnappings are common and increasing occurrances.

    Banning school athletics programs would save far more children's lives. So would banning automobiles, eliminating all foods that include potential allergens, and placing all children in gated institutions until 18, just to think of a few examples.

    Maybe things are different where you live, but everywhere I've been, children who are prevented from learning how to handle risk tend towards one of two extremes. Either they react by doing incredibly stupid things (unprotected sex, reckless driving, etc.) and tend to get hurt, or they have no idea how to handle adult risks and responsibilities once they grow up and are no longer safely ensconced in bubble wrap.

    I do realize that when people have children, the genetic imperative hijacks behaviour to varying degree. Maybe this made sense back when society was simpler, risks more easily understood and addressed, and the capacity for smothering and control limited. That does not make it a rational or effective strategy for raising children to be functional adults in today's society.

    Patrick Henry did not learn the courage to utter "give me liberty or give me death" by being raised by parents whose mantras were "think of the children" and "if it saves just one child...".

  7. Re:Makes sense for Japanese parents by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Informative

    Children don't have a "right" to privacy.

    In all the countries of the world, except the United States of America and Somalia, they do.

    Article 16

    1. No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation.

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  8. Lets bask in your hate why don't we by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unicef, UN, and Amnisty International can all bite me with their anti-American spew.

    That's funny, because there was nothing anti-american in my post. I simply named the 2 countries on earth who refused to ratify the declaration on the rights of children.

    so, you're saying that kids of Iran, Iraq (two years ago), Afghanistan (3 years ago) Syria, and the like all have a right to privacy?

    Yes, they had a right to it.
    Maybe their rights were being violated...but they had rights.

    Where's the UN on the Sudan? Rwanda?

    When the genocides started in Rwanda in 1994, the U.N. tried to move in with a peacekeeping force, but the move was blocked by the U.S. because they didn't think the deathtoll of hundreds of thousands of africans was high enough to risk U.S. soldier casualties that might result from their participation.

    Where's Unicef on female genital mutilation?

    Here.

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