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Mark Pesce: Open Source Television

alexburnsdisinfo writes "Mark Pesce has given a riveting talk to Australia's Smart Internet CRC on Open Source Television. Rights for reuse granted under the Creative Commons Attribution License." (The talk is here transcribed as text, and it's good reading.)

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  1. They just want to let the cable TV wash over them. by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The worldwide consolidation of media industries has led to a consequent closure of the public airwaves with respect to matters of public interest. As control of this public resource becomes more centralized, the messages transmitted by global media purveyors become progressively less relevant, less diverse, and less reflective of ground truth.

    Greg Palast talks a lot about how misinformation (and lack of information in general) comes from media consolidation in his book The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. While I don't latch on to everything the man says I do believe that we are living in a time of self-censorship. While the media says that they are fair and balanced we have fantastic shows like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News! We have proof coming from Iraq war coverage that mentions that of course they back the war!

    Are we all going to back "Open Source" media? No. Slashdot might but the rest of the world could give a shit. We are talking about people that just don't give a fuck about thinking for themselves. They care only what they hear on TV and read in their local paper. Spin doesn't exist for them. To paraphrase from Runaway Jury: people just want to come home and sit in their lounge chair and let the cable TV wash over them... The rest of us are conspiracy freaks! Fox News didn't mention anything about this so it must not be true.

    Continue your attempts to educate and change the world but don't be surprised when it doesn't do a fucking thing other than label you as someone on the fringe.

  2. Glorified public access? by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Last time I checked it was rather difficult to enhance something already recorded... This seems like a gimmick to get onto the open source band wagon, it's just something which won't work outside of software IMO.

    Open source is an ideal, it works with people who agree with it (us geeks), but when you try to apply an ideal to something else it won't work (hey lets never have sex so we can make a baby! for example).

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    1. Re:Glorified public access? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      no no no, and finally, NO. I think you are just wrong, Open Source tv programming would be GREAT, maybe it has not occured to YOU that we would be able to improve upon a program by editing it but trust me it CAN be done. imagine taking several "seemingly unrelated" shows or documentaries, cutting them up into snipps then piecing parts of them back together to create something entirly NEW. much as the f9-11 documentary was created from pieces of OTHER programs which were prevously aired.

      i think there is ALOT of room for Open Source in TV i have not even mentioned the idea of Over Dubbing various languages to shows that otherwise would never be translated, thus opening doors to broad variety of new audiences. the possibilities are endless.

  3. Re:They just want to let the cable TV wash over th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm beginning to believe that the only way to make people realise the influence television has over them is to by some means turn the crap off for a week or so (highly undemocratic).
    Imagine the babies produced

  4. And this is the perfect way to implement it... by diagnosis · · Score: 4, Informative

    And what better way to share Free stuff than the Internet?

    Nullsoft (of WinAmp/trouble-making fame) released NSV/Winamp TV. A good description:

    NSV is a new multimedia container format designed for network video streaming. The format is known as NullSoft Video or simply NSV. NSV was developed by Nullsoft corporation, the same company that produced the popular Winamp and Shoutcast streaming audio software.

    NSV consists of free software to encode, stream and view video. There are additional third party NSV applications being developed and distributed by stations and users.

    Visit here for more info

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  5. Re:They just want to let the cable TV wash over th by Oxygen99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's pretty unfair. You want to try working a 40/50/60 hour week with wife and kids in a hard manual job and then see how much spare time you have to make yourself well informed. Some of us simply don't have time to do this. Somehow the /. mentality seems to be that we should all be experts, all the time on everything that affects us. Unfortunatly, the world doesn't allow that and once we've made time for work, food, sleep, family and friends, there ain't a lot left to determine whose turn it is to tell media porkies. Personally I just don't believe anything of it. I know that's a bad attitude to have, but it's all I have the time or energy to do.

    Just my 2 cents...

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  6. Crash by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh wonderful, so when I'm watching CSI and it crashes, I'll have to go to some obscure Outer Mongolian forum to look up a fix that works for my particular TV/Cable box/Cable provider/Channel combination, take 3 hours to recompile the kernel, and when I'm done I'll have missed my show!

    Seriously, it seems like lately you can tack on the phrase "Open source" to anything and it will get /.'ed (see previous months articles about open source life, medicine, etc)

    "Hey, I got a brilliant idea! Open source bridges! People drive across these things all the time, and pay tolls! That's just giving money to the MAN, lets give them a free alternative! Upkeep be damned!"

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  7. Re:They just want to let the cable TV wash over th by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want to try working a 40/50/60 hour week with wife and kids in a hard manual job and then see how much spare time you have to make yourself well informed. Some of us simply don't have time to do this. Somehow the /. mentality seems to be that we should all be experts, all the time on everything that affects us. Unfortunatly, the world doesn't allow that and once we've made time for work, food, sleep, family and friends, there ain't a lot left to determine whose turn it is to tell media porkies. Personally I just don't believe anything of it. I know that's a bad attitude to have, but it's all I have the time or energy to do.

    Then be happy when you are forced to welcome the WTO overlords and their "incentives" for lower wages and more corporate control.

    This is stuff that effects EVERYONE. You should be interested in setting aside time to learn. If you are really serious and not trolling I hope to god you heed my words.

    If you won't do it for yourself then do it for your family. You seem so interested in making sure you work hard for them you should also be interested in making sure that you won't have to work even harder for less.

  8. Network Bandwith by foregather · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree that the centralized control of airwave spectrum is greatly limiting people's ability to communicate with one another as well as gather information about the world at large.

    I wonder if the issue is currently one of human nature of broadcast technology. If we were all running on Ethernet networks we could, as currently happens daily on college campuses across the country, distribute TV shows through very fast file transfers. If the audience for such transfers were large enough, people would produce and distribute original content over it rather than just copying material produced for tv. If you look at a college campus you can see the early form of this already replacing normal tv watching for large numbers of students, and they are some of the high consumption media viewers.

    If the network spreads, does this model spread with it, and if it does do we still face the same limitations of centralized self-censorship found in the spectrum clutches at the moment?

  9. yesterday's tomorrow by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm glad to see that for Mark "VRML" Pesce, the future is always just around the corner.

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  10. Open Source Television? by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So that's liek...what? Everyone has a hand in the writing of the plot lines for a certain show?

    I could see that show going straight to hell very quickly, given the comments and mindset here on /.

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  11. Re:Kerry or Bush - THERE IS NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful


    They said that in 2000.

    And we wound up with a psychotic idiot warmonger in the white house.

  12. Open Source by mwheeler01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate to be picky but "Open Source"? Wouldn't a better analogy be GPL? I mean what source is there in Television?

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  13. Re:They just want to let the cable TV wash over th by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although I'm very liberal, I am far happier to talk about world events to someone who is a fan of Bill O'Reilly's TV show as opposed to someone who gets their news from the radio on the way to work in the morning. Just because I disagree with their opinions doesn't mean those opinions aren't worthwhile. It is the lack of opinions that we need fear most.

    My point was that these people that listen to Bill O'Reilly don't generally have opinions. They are just parroting what Mr. O'Reilly tells them.

    Sadly for them, they are usually misinformed and parroting spun information that is whining about the spin from other sources.

    I'd rather educate someone and attempt to get them to learn from various sources rather than "debate" with someone who is just a parrot from a single source.

  14. Finally by Morky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now when a show has delivered a particularly banal line, I can get in there and fix it.

  15. Mark Pesce by Frogg · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't read the article at the moment (their MySQL has overloaded)...

    ...but Mark Pesce was the original inventor of VRML -- which, although it seems to've pretty much died-a-death in the dot-com bust, I think we'll eventually go full circle and re-discover/re-invent it once we've all got SVG viewers built-in to our browsers.

  16. Re:They just want to let the cable TV wash over th by Saeger · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Who has time to read depressing news like:
    Despite recent good news on employment growth, the current economic recovery, now approaching its third year, remains the most unbalanced on record in respect to the distribution of income gains between corporate profits and labor compensation. Essentially, rapid gains in productivity have been translating into higher corporate profits without increasing the wage and salary income of American workers.

    or:

    In the new millennium, as the use of intelligent computers increase, jobs will vanish, with several million expected to disappear over the next five to seven years, Cohen said. While less labor to do more work is great for business, there will be an impact on society as people find decent paying jobs harder to find.

    Apathy&Denial's my middle name.

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  17. Geez... by Richthofen80 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    these days you can append 'open source' to pretty much anything and it works.

    I'm still waiting for open source sex and an open source girlfriend.

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