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Industry Group Would Permit (Some) DVD Copying

Zocalo writes "The BBC is carrying the story that agreements have been made to permit legal DVD copying for use on portable devices and The Register appears to have the same story too. While extremely light on details, the mention of Microsoft and AACS leads me to believe this has something to do with Microsoft's Janus system which has been discussed here before. Perhaps more interesting though is that Disney and Time Warner are apparently on board... Can it be that the MPAA has learnt a lesson from the RIAA's heavy handed tactics or has Microsoft convinced them that Janus will work, despite their recent record of bug free coding, and we're going to have a repeat of the DeCSS fiasco?"

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  1. I do not need their permission by kyknos.org · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I do copy DVDs anyway.

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  2. Re:Personal use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    First thing I do is make a copy of the disc, and store the copy in my car. That way if someone were to steal my case of CDs, I would still have the originals.


    As I was midway through your post, I expected the conclusion to be:

    "so if someone steals my car, they'll receive a stiffer penalty for stealing the music."

  3. Re:WTF? by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Who do you think is out on the streets selling bootlegged DVDs for 10 bucks a pop? Who do you think ORGANIZES this CRIMINAL activity? Could it be, organized crime? Groups trying to raise quick untracable bucks to fund other activities? Oh, no, that's just fearmongering and FUD.

    I tell ya, the guys running the little bootleg booths around here all have turbans on their heads and long beards. They're raking in a lot of bucks, and he sure as fuck ain't spending it on the latest fashion or personal hygiene products.

    I'm sure they're all just freedom fighters, and modern-day minutemen. Just ask Michael Moore.

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  4. Like they have a choice? by macemoneta · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I already watch movies on my Palm Tungsten C (with mmplayer that I rip from DVDs I've purchased (Dark City and the Southpark movie are loaded as we speak).

    I think anyone that tried to convince a jury that I shouldn't be allowed to watch a movie I bought on a device I bought would be laughed out of court.

    I see this current activity as damage control, public relations, and possibly a backdoor into monitoring/ratings. After all, if they can show that x people watched the movie on their portable player, and were forced to view the commercial attached to it, they can get revenue from that commercial.

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  5. DRM replaces media degradation by jzilla · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When record companies started putting out album on cdroms, they were concern about the durability of cdroms. Ever wonder why cdrom dics aren't encloded like a 3.5 inch floppy? Record companies were used to selling tapes, which degrade over time, and they could resell the same thing over and over. So they decide not to put protective enclosure (some drives before this had them) on thier cdroms so they would degrade quicker by scratches, kids, spills and what not.

    Thats the role DRM is playing today. So you can't buy a copy and use it forever.

    Thats why I refuse DRM.

  6. Time For A Poker Analogy... by bfg9000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... if you sit at the table with these guys and can't tell who the sucker is in ten minutes, it's you.

    Their histories should speak for themselves. Combined, they're probably trying to get ahold of the One Ring again.

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  7. Re:Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Back when Stallman first wrote his

    >The Right to Read essay in 1997, it sounded so extreme - his premise was that a logical extention of the evolving copyright system could be that only the rich may be allowed to read - that it made him seem even more of a crackpot than most already considered him.


    But wow. Seems he was more accurate than one would like to admit.

  8. All DRM should be required to time out by howlatthemoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At least for the time being, this content will (some time in the next century) fall into the public domain. DRM that fails to remove itself after a reasonable time should be illegal. I agree with everyone else who believes that DRM is restricting our current fair use rights, but as someone who deals with archives, this is a major concern. The media industry is technologically destroying the public domain.

  9. Re:backup copies by Alsee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All I got was this big response saying all I had to do was buy an "official" card that supported the broadcast flag and encrypted stuff appropriately.

    Just ask them how you are supposed to edit, compress, or otherwise manipulate encrypted images.

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