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NBC Aims For Stability Through Redundancy In Athens

Darren writes "With the Athens Olympics just 27 days away NBC is gearing up for a massive 1210 hours of coverage (that's enough to watch TV over 50 days of Olympics 24/7). The infrastructure needed to provide such coverage is huge, and the potential for problems is significant. As a result NBC are taking all precautions possible and over the 17 days of competition they will utilize three satellite network linkups and three land-based connections to ensure they always have a connection. The mind boggles at what it is all going to cost - but I'm sure their advertising revenue will make it worth their while."

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  1. Hang on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The infrastructure needed to provide such coverage is huge and the potential for problems is significant.

    Unlike the facilities for the Olympics themselves, the place is still a building site isn't it?

    1. Re:Hang on... by bigman2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The sad thing about this, is that I am sure they are preparing for the possibility of a terrorist attack.

      Let's say there is an attack, at some stadium. Well, the whole world would be watching, and they would have exclusive rights to access the area with cameras.

      Seriously, you know they thought about it, and probably put that into the contract. Exclusive rights to a track and field competition...good...but exclusive rights to the second largest terrorist event this century? Priceless.

      I'm not saying it because I want it to happen, or because I am calloused. I am saying it because it makes financial sense for them. This could be the biggest scoop ever, and they want to be prepared.

      It IS a sick world.

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    2. Re:Hang on... by red+floyd · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd like to remind you that the terrorist attack at Munich 1972 made Jim McKay's career.

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  2. Yes but... by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will they eb covering the math competition?

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    1. Re:Yes but... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Will they eb covering the math competition?

      That's about as likely as an Olympic Spelling eeB.

  3. Re:wow by mattjb0010 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just check out the Athens soccer stadium!

  4. In case of nuclear terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do they have a redundant Athens standing by?

    1. Re:In case of nuclear terrorism by robogun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They don't have to actually pop one off over there - one phoned-in nuke threat could cause delays or cancellations costing hundreds of millions of dollars.

    2. Re:In case of nuclear terrorism by identity0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why, as a matter of fact, they do! Why don't y'all come down here to have a look-see? It's as good as the real thing, Ah swear!

      Yeesh, who wants to go over to see some ruins in Greece when you can get all the culture you want down here? We just got our second Wal-Mart, it's quite a sight! I don't know why they even host the olympics in some other country, as if Greece has some olympic prestiege over good 'ol Georgia...

  5. NBC has the backbone by toetagger1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    NBC is owned by GE, which in turn owns GE Energy. With the resent history of power outages on July 13 in Grece, I wonder how they back up against that?

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    1. Re:NBC has the backbone by Colymbosathon+ecplec · · Score: 5, Informative
      Same way we power stuff when off the grid or the power goes down, and what hospitals and datacenters and lots of other places use: diesel powered gensets. Plus, if they did lose feed, they have a ton of advertising and rehashed 'content' to fill the space.

      ^CE^

  6. Why the indirect linkage via a blog? by poulbailey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This story just seems to be posted to drive traffic to a blog. Why do the Slashdot editors allow this?

    The proper stories are posted at sportsillustrated.cnn.com (printer friendly) and computerworld.com (printer friendly) respectively. Click those links instead.

  7. Redundancy isn't the only point of success. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 3, Funny

    NBC's idea of redundancy might sound like a good one at first, but according to the Department of Redundancy Department, redundancy has its risks as well. First and foremost is the risk of a false sense of security. For example, if the satellite gets shot down, then their three links to the satellite won't be worth the paper they're printed on.

  8. Advertising revenue will skyrocket... by crashnbur · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...because everyone will be watching hoping to be glued to their TV when/if a blackout or terrorist attack hits. There's no news like bad news, and nothing can replace the ego of an American who can say he/she "saw it as it happened".

    (I don't think I will intentionally watch any of the Olympics, because I'll be out looking for a job and preparing for grad school.)

  9. solve all problems using the Slashdot method by Jrod5000+at+RPI · · Score: 2, Funny

    it's easy! afraid of losing a broadcast? simply submit a duplicate broadcast! if both get through, blame Taco!

    I mean what the hell, it works for slashdot!

  10. And after? by Trailwalker · · Score: 5, Funny
    Let's get this into perspective - if you were to watch those 1210 hours end on end you'd be watching 50.4 days worth of television around the clock!


    Death would be a mercy after that.
  11. Olympics not profitable for television by Jayfar · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The mind boggles at what it is all going to cost - but I'm sure their advertising revenue will make it worth their while.

    The networks generally lose millions on the olympic broadcasts - it's a prestige thing for them. Maybe they gain some small advantage in viewership for subsequent sports programming.

    1. Re:Olympics not profitable for television by DocScience4 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's what is known as a "loss leader" in the broadcasting industry. Not only is it (though marginally) for getting people to watch other sports, and overall "prestige", but mainly it delivers a sizeable audience to which they can promote their new and incumbent shows.

      They can also charge a premium rate for certain events on NBC (akin to the Super Bowl), and can provide more limited-appeal sports to narrowly-focused audiences in non-prime-time, as well as on their ancillary (e.g. USA) networks.

  12. Re:wow by billygr · · Score: 2, Funny

    You forget that we are the Greeks.... Everything will be ready 5 minutes before the start of the olympics

  13. Wonder why they chose the same service provider... by syrinje · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ...AT&T for all the six links. I would have thought it made sense to go with multiple service providers if I was spreading out my options for 99.9% availability.

    I just loved this gem from the link in the article "NBC will be able to send live feeds from Greece to the U.S. over all six links at once or use them for separate transmissions." Hmmm...six identical high-speed digital transmissions of Marion Jones tumbling in ignominy - yeeesh, wot a waste of bandwidth!

    Now here is an article about the design of the media center and its redundant systems that is more in tune with my ./er persona

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  14. Congratulations, Darren. by croddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    you got your personal olympics blog linked on the front page of slashdot.
    now go upstairs, your mom needs some help in the kitchen.

  15. All that redundancy means absolutely nothing... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...if the power keeps going out every other day in Athens.

    - A.P.

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    1. Re:All that redundancy means absolutely nothing... by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 2, Funny

      Helloooooo! That's what the frickin' TORCH is for...

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  16. Answer by mattjb0010 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Resale

  17. Redundancy in filming American competitors by synx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So NBC will have redundancy - so you won't miss a minute of your favourite American competitor! Most people I know joke about NBC's coverage of the Olympics - its laughable. They'll show an event, then when the American loses they'll cut to a new event.

    Contrast this with CBC and BBC which cover entire events regardless of who wins or loses.

    So those who get cable, time to watch CBC for _full_ coverage of the Olympics!

    1. Re:Redundancy in filming American competitors by lakin · · Score: 2, Informative

      On the topic of BBC, NBC may have a nice redundant setup but its not like the BBC dont either: http://www.bbctechnology.com/news40.htm Paul

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  18. No shooting sports coverage by chiph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now if we can get them to use all that technolgy to broadcast the shooting sports. I'm getting a little tired of watching hours of Curling or rhythmic gymnastics.

    Chip H.

  19. So what? The coverage will suck anyway by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The major network coverage of the Olympics stinks anyway. Endless fluff pieces about athletes, almost no coverage of anyone who is not from the US, and heaven forbid they spend time on anything but track, volleyball, swimming, diving and gymnastics (again especially if no americans figure for a gold) and tape delayed coverage. Last olympics I was lucky enough to have CBC coverage since I lived near Canada but no such luck now. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the sports that do get the airtime but the coverage is usually horrible for anyone who actually knows/cares about a given sport.

    For example, the bicyling time trial last time was "The Lance Armstrong Show". I don't have anything against Lance but he didn't even win and there were lots of other good riders I would have liked to see. What little coverage was shown was poor and basically an expose about Lance's life. I wanted to see the event. If I wanted information about a rider there are plenty of ways to find out. (Yes I know why they do this but I don't have to like it)

    Anyway I seriously doubt I'll be watching much of the Olympics. The coverage will be annoying and instead of seeing a variety of sports I'll be subjected to every qualifying round of the men's volleyball team. Ugh...

  20. balancing connections by shokk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Balancing three Satellite connections and three landlines is not such a big deal. With equipment like Israeli company Radware's LinkProof at both ends, the loss of one line would not be noticed. You can configure that equipment to aggregate all connections to multiply the bandwidth, including spreading VPN traffic across the lines, or just use the other lines as failover. These boxes are supposed to handle 10 connections and are very configurable and are veeeery configurable.

    The same technology is available for smaller sites with their Linkproof Branch product.

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  21. Re:Why does NBC bother? by NickV · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's actually not true. It seems like NBC is planning on prempting ALL of their coverage on all of their networks (I wonder what they're going to do with CNBC during business hours... olympics + stock ticker?)

    They'll be broadcasting it ALL across all 7 of their channels (bravo, cnbc, msnbc, telemundo, nbc, USA, nbcHD [local HD affiliates]. The HD broadcasts will be in 5.1 1080i too, which is pretty damn slick.

    Of course, aside from a prestige thing, this looks like network programming suicide.

  22. Re:That's nice, except... by NickV · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think that's the point... NBC is planning to show people that they can do good coverage, because ALOT of people complained ALOT about Sydney.

    1200+ hours of live coverage across 7 channels all day is about as good as you can get.

  23. 1210 hours of programming? Bring it on! by fprefect · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've got my TiVo configured with an external RAID and terabytes of storage, I'm ready -- bring it on!

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  24. In other news... by scifiber_phil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The major networks only will be airing "Highlights" of the upcoming political conventions in the US. Guess whether a 15 year old gymnast falls off the balance beam is more important. American students suck at science, but they can sure bounce a ball and throw it through a hoop. Long live the cult of Sport.

  25. Re:That's nice, except... by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder how much of that coverage will be about non-american athletes...

    Maybe it's just me, but I like seeing competitors from other countries and seeing profiles on them as well...

    N.

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