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UK High Court Rules Modchips Illegal

PhotoBoy writes "The Register has an article about the UK's High Court ruling PlayStation 2 modchips to be illegal. This means all homebrew and hobbyist coders in the UK can no longer modify their consoles to run games they have written. Gamers who like to mod their consoles to play games on import early are also out of luck. It's like saying you can't modify your car or your house or your clothes! Would Ford sue you for removing the rev limiter from your Focus?"

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  1. So many ways to get it by stecoop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Making it is illegal to bypass copy protection mechanisms

    I have a sharpie that could be used to circumvent the copyright protection. My shift key also would be a violation. The courts won't go after Office Depot or Logitech because you want to go after big fish with money but not enough money to properly defend their selves.

    Shouldn't the courts just go after the copyright violators rather than going after all mechanism that could be used to violate copyright? Of course not you know that judge doesn't want to youth playing those nasty region 3+ games; he is doing it for the good of public morals... right?

  2. Don't Forget by FractusMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While yes, there are people who use modchips to play their own, homebrew games, and play imported games, let's not overlook the obvious. People put modchips in their consoles so they can play stolen (ie, burned) games. If people did NOT use modchips for that purpose, this law wouldn't be necessary. But the fact is that the UK high court is not 'ruining your rights' - it's the people who copy and sell games illegally that ruin the fun for everyone. The UK is merely taking steps to stop that. Whether the steps are too far, I don't know and won't argue. But don't think that this is a cut and dried case of trampling of rights. Go bitch at your friends who have a bunch of "Backup copies" of games.

    1. Re:Don't Forget by Erick+the+Red · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cars are used in bank robberies, but they are still legal.

      Knives are used in murders, but they are still legal.

      Computers are used for vandalism and fraud, but they are still legal.

      Almost anything has an illegitimate use, but we don't outlaw the thing, we outlaw the use.

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    2. Re:Don't Forget by ortholattice · · Score: 4, Informative
      In the entire history of game ownership, I've never managed to damage a single disc to the point where it is no longer playable.

      Then you obviously don't have kids. If I had $49.95 for each disc my kid has managed to ruin, I'd be rich. Oh wait, that's why I'm not rich.

    3. Re:Don't Forget by goldspider · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If cars were used 99% of the time to run over people, they probably would be illegal.

      If knives were used 99% of the time to murder people, they probably would be illegal.

      If computers were used 99% of the time for vandalism and fraud, they probably would be illegal.

      Suggesting that these mod chips are used primarily by "hobbiests" is proof that Slashdotters cannot honestly look this problem in the eye.

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    4. Re:Don't Forget by drwav · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So what you are saying is that it is OK to make law outlawing something as long as it only adversely affects a minority of people.

      Let's say that 99% of people use mod chips to play copies of games that they didn't pay for (I just made that stat up to work with your argument), thus the 1% that use mod chips for legitimate uses must sacrifice their rights for the greater good.

      Sure it sounds reasonable at first, because chances are very good that it won't affect you in the slightest. However, if you sit and think about it for a minute and wonder how those few people who are being punished for the actions of other people might feel, you might start to realize that maybe this law isn't reasonable at all.

      If everyone practiced a little empathy before making broad judgements like this the world would be a much more pleasant place to live in.

  3. Isn't it the case? by Mikkeles · · Score: 4, Informative
    'It's like saying you can't modify your car...'

    I believe that there are jurisdictions in which car mods (or some kinds) are illegal. (California comes to mind).

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  4. Different analogy by nulltransfer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Would Ford sue you for removing the rev limiter from your Focus?

    Not that I agree with this law, but lawmakers probably see mod chips as analogous to mounting guns on your car. There are many legitimate uses for mod chips, but since they don't want to deal with the exceptions, they probably want to completely illegalize the usage.

    Earlier this year, the Italian court ruled that mod chips are legal on the basis that it's up to the user, not Sony, how they use their PS2. It even went so far as to name mod chips as crucial tools to "avoid monopolistic positions".

    Thumbs up to the Italians, though :)

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  5. European harmonisation by flossie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given that the judge ruled that mod chips are illegal due to the European Union Copyright Directive (EUCD) and that other EU nations (Italy, Spain) have already ruled the chips to be legal, is there any scope for this ruling to be challenged in a higher court because of misinterpretation of the directive?

  6. Is that PS2 only? by KDR_11k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if this ruling also affects Gamecube modchips? After all, the GC copy protection hasn't been cracked by modchips and the only thing the chips do is circumvent the region lockout (can be done with a certain disk too). I wonder if region lockout is also considered a "copy protection" under the EUCD.

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  7. Hey, wait.... by cheeseSource · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a Focus. How do I get rid of the rev limiter?

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  8. bah by maxpublic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once I buy something, it's mine. Oh wait! So not true anymore; now I don't buy, I *lease* under whatever terms my corporate and government masters deign to grant me. God forbid that I should actually *own* something to be used in whatever fashion I see fit. Oh no, I'm just a consumer peon, I can't possibly be allowed such a right!

    Max

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  9. Wait, the description of the decision is wrong by Nakito · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Slashdot blurb for this article is wrong and makes an incorrect analogy. The blurb says, "It's like saying you can't modify your car or your house or your clothes!"

    But if you read the article, the description of the decision is substantially different: "The UK High Court has judged that the sale, advertisement, possession for commercial purposes and use of PlayStation 2 modification chips is illegal in this country."

    The distinction is huge. It means that you are allowed to "modify your car" (to use the proposed analogy). You just aren't allowed to commercialize your modifications. You can tinker all you want, but you can't sell the results of your tinkering.

    It's still a significant limitation, but we should at least be arguing about the actual limitation, not the incorrect one.

    1. Re:Wait, the description of the decision is wrong by gfxguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are four violations in the statement:

      1. Sale,
      2. Adverstisement,
      3. Possession for commercial purposes, AND
      4. Use.

      Number 4 is what you are doing if you possess one and use it. So it looks like you are allowed to have one, you just can't legally use it. "Legally" being the operative word.

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    2. Re:Wait, the description of the decision is wrong by shades6666 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I believe the ruling can be found here

  10. Welcome to Home2.0 by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 4, Funny

    Realtor: "This is a modern luxory home built by Home2.0. Pricing for Family Unit Licenses vary based upon geographic location, Regional Demographics, size of Family Unit and estiamted annual income for the course of your License. Base Per Family Unit Licenses start at $750,000.00 in the California Bay Area."

    Home Buyer: "Base Per Family Unit License????"

    Realtor: "Yes, your mortgage provides you a Family Unit License authorizing you use of the Home2.0 product for 1 Family Unit until transferance of that license to another Family Unit."

    Home Buyer: "Use? But I'm here to buy, not rent."

    Realtor: "But, you do buy! You buy the Family Unit License to use the Home2.0 product for your Family Unit."

    Home Buyer: "So if I'm buying only a license, who owns the home?"

    Realtor: "Home2.0 of course. They retain the exclusive right to monitor your home usage and make regular maintenance inspections and install upgrades as needed to insure standards of living compliance."

    Home Buyer: "And I always modded those "1984" Posts on /. down as trolls." *sigh*

  11. Legitimate uses by Xian97 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As the father of two young children, I took what I thought was adequate precautions to protect my game collection. I placed the PS2 games up on a shelf out of their reach and changed the disk for them when they wanted to play. One day a friend was over and while I was out of the room he gets a game down off the shelf to look at the cover art or manual and places it on the coffee table. In a matter of minutes the toddler is attracted to the bright, shiny packaging and the even brighter, shinier game DVD inside. Almost instantly a $50 disk is scratched and unplayable in spite of all the precautions I had taken. I contacted the company to see if I could get a replacment disk for a discounted price and was told that I would have to buy the whole package again for full price. After that I made DVDR backups of the games I had bought and modified the PS2 to play the backups. While I am sure many use modchips to copy games they do not own, don't condemn the technology when it has legitimate uses as well.

  12. Re:So what? by tsm_sf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, I made up all of my numbers, but the proportions are generally right.

    Thanks for contributing in your own small way to the death of Science. Keep it up, and remember to vote Republican this fall.

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  13. Re:fair and balanced? by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except your revision is incorrect. The rights of all citizens are being infringed upon.

    Rights are innate even when they are not being acted upon. A monk who has taken a vow of silence still retains whatever rights to speak any citizen has and a law forbiding speech, even though he has already chosen not to, infringes his rights.

    KFG

  14. Re:Commercial ModChips Only by ChrisMaple · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The sentence is ambiguous. Does it mean "commercial use" is illegal, or does it mean "use" is illegal?

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  15. Missing from the Article Write-Up by goldspider · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Emphasis mine...

    "This means all homebrew and hobbyist coders in the UK can no longer modify their consoles to run games they have written, and criminals who violate copywrite laws can no longer play the games they illegally downloaded and burned ."

    We all know that these mod chips have limited legitimate uses, but it is intellectually dishonest of the Slashdot crowd to intentionally ignore the primary purpose of these chips.

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  16. Re:fair and balanced? by runderwo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    How is this a big blow to piracy? Piracy was _already_ illegal. What does making a potential piracy tool illegal accomplish? Is piracy somehow now "more" illegal now that the digital equivalent of a lockpick has been outlawed?

  17. Re:fair and balanced? by MacGod · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is this a big blow to piracy? Piracy was _already_ illegal. What does making a potential piracy tool illegal accomplish? Is piracy somehow now "more" illegal now that the digital equivalent of a lockpick has been outlawed?

    It doesn't make it "more" illegal, but I'll bet it makes the mod chips much harder to find, thus making the illegally-burned games that much more difficult to play.

    It also means that careful pirates, who keep their bootlegs hidden, can still be busted just for owning a modchipped console. To use your analogy, if you're caught with a lockpick, you can still be arrested, even if you're not breaking into a house at the time.

    And those who get caught with the games can have an additional charge added on (posession of the modchip). So while it isn't more illegal, it might mean stiffer fines for those caught.

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  18. Sony PS2's now must be taxed as import consoles... by rapiddescent · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well this is very interesting because Sony got away with a punitive tax levy on the PS2 being imported to the UK because Sony proved that the PS2 was a customisable computer that could run user programs (not limited to Sony approved games). Thats why the UK versions came with PS2 Basic - to essentially make the console a home computer rather than a games console.

    One of the main differentiations between a game console and a home computer is that a game console has a restriction on the software installed on it.

    Games consoles imported into the UK from outside the euro zone attract a large import duty. I hope that Customs and Excise will now be retrospectively collecting import duty for every PS2 sold in the UK and interest on the late payment of that duty going back over time.

    rd

  19. Hobbiests no, backup yes by phorm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I don't know a lot of people using modchips in order to play customized or homebrew games, there are quite a few that use them for copied games of owned originals.

    I myself just finished dumping a bunch of my old PS1 games to ISO images. The images will go on a single DVD, and I can use them on my emulators etc without the original. I still own the original so I haven't deprived anyone of a sale (and no bitching about legality of emulators, I have a PS2 it's just not as portable as a laptop).

    Unfortunately, I'm too late for two of the disks as a few bad sectors bork the extraction on them - however I'm getting a copy of those off emule.

    Gee, look at that. I'm downloading copyrighted material, ripping copyrighted material, using an emulator... I could even use a modchip for that - and ya know what NO "PIRACY" HAS OCCURED because I bought and paid for the original media.

    If half the people with modchips do any of the above, I'd say there are a lot of legitimate cases of use. So unless you've got proof that everyone using these is definately pirating, I'd suggest that your eyes might be clearer if your head wasn't up your rear end.

  20. Re:So what? by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Informative
    WTF does how you vote have to do with the "Death of Science"?

    Everything.