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SETI Predicts We'll Find ETs by 2020

FTL writes "Based on the Drake Equation, Moore's Law, and the Allen Telescope, a new prediction has been made that Earth will make first contact with aliens within 20 years. Of course once we find the first aliens there's the question of can we decode their signals, would they spot our reply, and what's the lag time."

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  1. SETI Predicts? Erm, no. by Hortensia+Patel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the first sentence of TFA:

    If Intelligent life exists elsewhere in our galaxy, advances in computer processing power and radio telescope technology will ensure we detect their transmissions within two decades (my emphasis)

    Even if ETs do exist, there are a host of long-standing doubts about whether they'll be using "transmissions" (questionable), or whether those transmissions will be distinguishable from random noise (OK, probably).

    Sensationalist, moi?

  2. What if... by farzadb82 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The signals picked up are actually our own from twenty years prior ?

    Seriously, has anyone considered the possibility that the only intelligent life-forms in the universe maybe humans in past, present and future form ?

  3. Flaw in Drake Equation by uncadonna · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've thought this for a long time. Maybe this is the occasion to get this idea across to people who might be interested.

    While the equation is clearly true since it's basically redundant, it may not elucidate the problem very well. This is because some of the terms may be nonlinearly coupled.

    If interstellar propagation of a technological species is possible, the rate of emergence of such species is not independent of whether such species have emerged in the past. There is an ecological competition between hypothetical spacefaring species. Unless two such species emerge simultaneously and accomodate each other, the emergence of one will essentially foreclose the emergence of another.

    If the rate of formation of stable technological civilizations is sufficiently low, and the rate of interstellar spread of such civilizations is sufficiently high, there will only be time for one such civilization to emerge per galaxy. By the time the second one could emerge, the first one would have filled the entire niche.

    In this scenario, by virtue of the fact that we have emerged, we can conclude that no stable competitors have emerged yet.

    In fact, my intuition is that the universe is in precisely this regime, and therefore that we are very unlikely to succeed in SETI.

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  4. We are alone in the galaxy by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Besides that fact that they are pulling numbers out of their ass, there is already a high probability that there is no other intelligent life in the galaxy.

    Proof? Easy. Look up The Fermi Paradox. One of the corollaries that convince me is the fact that, even at sublight speeds, it only takes 1-10 million years to fill up a galaxy, since a race would tend to fill up in a geometric progression. Given how old the galaxy is, it should have happened by now. It only takes one race in billions of years to have wanderlust for earth-like planets, and boom! No more intelligent life rising up.

    That it hasn't seem to have happened means we are alone.

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  5. Not convinced by dfj225 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not convinced that there is life outside of earth to find. Even more so, I really doubt that if we find another planet that harbors life, it will contain intelligent life. Scientists are just beginning to learn how unique our planet really is. Things such as our cosmic location to even our (relatively) overly large moon add into the stability of our planet. Also, (and this is more of my own opinion) intelligence seems to be overrated as far as what we see on earth. For instance, apes are among the most intelligent creatures on earth, yet they do not have radio communications. Ants, on the other hand, have been around for millenia, yet are very simple creatures. If intelligence was such an important factor to survival, I think we would see more animals on earth nearing human intelligence. I also believe in divine creation of humans, the idea of which, I think, is helped out by the fact that we are so unique amoung all the species on earth.

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