Posted by
michael
on from the thanks-for-all-the-fish-screensavers dept.
Nirbo writes "FreeBSD switches to X.Org, The 'HEADSUP' can be found here, and on the -x11, -current, and -ports mailing lists. Very good news for those FreeBSD users who have either changed to X.Org in anticipation, or have been waiting in hope for this momentous change."
Re:HOLLA
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Anonymous Coward
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I done hollah right back at cha, WHAT
FAQ: sellfone
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Anonymous Coward
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Q: Why'd he do it? A: Because he hated life, and life hated him back, why else would you kill yourself? Because you're a fat loser living in his parents' basement.
Marlon Brando Used it..
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Anonymous Coward
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So I use it too. If it's good enough for an oscar wimming actore i'ts goood enough for me.
Micheal Likes Men
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Anonymous Coward
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That being said, the real website for BSD is located at www.diddlers.info.
NOW PEOPLE LEts keeping the fucking posts on topic you sick fuckers!
Now sign the fucking guestbook shitbags.
Re:automatic configuration
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xanadu-xtroot.com
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emerge -e world
It's not that hard. Yea OK, it might take a while on slower systems, but it's not hard or "system breaking".
-- I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
FreeBSD - hard luck, bad karma
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Anonymous Coward
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FreeBSD suffers from a couple of serious process flaws -- it is an
operating system which is truly at home neither in the open-source nor
the proprietary markets primarily because, although the source
is open, the development team is not. Furthermore the license
allows proprietary software to "steal" source code and use it.
The combination of these problems leads to a somewhat inferior OS.
Now, Apache uses a BSD style license but they have an open development
model which allows them to take advantage of a very large developer
pool in order to stay ahead of their competition. In fact although
proprietary versions of Apache exist which perform better than the
official releases, SGI has put out some open source patches which
generate even larger performance boosts. This is the reason why they
have such a strong showing in terms of market share.
BSD once
had potential but the procedural problems they are experiencing
hurt it when it comes to the market. I suspect that this is probably
in part because the BSD teams are not interested in such things, and
that is a shame... In fact, although I labeled it as an inferior OS,
this is not due to lack of progress within BSD -- it has been progressing
somewhat, but rather because all the improvements they make tend to be
quickly copied by their competitors AND they lack the developer pool
to stay ahead of this game (a problem which does not exist in the
Linux or Apache communities, though for somewhat different reasons).
I don't think that there is enough widespread support for BSD to
save the operating system. What must be done is an opening up of the
development process OR a GPL-style restriction on redistribution. In
many ways I favor the former.
Even in a worst case scenario,
I don't see BSD completely dying. I think the developers are less
into competition and more into a sort of idealized cooperation. As a
result, even as FreeBSD becomes more marginalized, I don't think that it
will die outright. It will most likely outlive Netware, for example.
What modem do you have? Some software modems (aka winmodems) are recognized, but given a non-standard serial port name in/dev. Couple that with pppd frontend clients that are too stupid to look for them...
A little nosing through your/dev and the configs for your pppd frontend should get it working.
-- Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
Debian GNU/BSD port status?
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The_Dougster
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Whats the word on Debian's port to the BSD kernel? Mainly I just like the feature-rich Debian platform and I don't give a rat's ass what kernel it runs on. Hell, even Debian/Hurd is a pretty sweet system if you can manage to get it work.
I, for one, would definately give Debian/BSD a spin around the block once its somewhat usable. Right now the Hurd is way more advanced than the BSD port.
The reason I don't currently use BSD is because of games. I am one of those 3L337 linux gamer dudes who not only has managed to get linux installed, but rather I have lots and lots of kickass games for it. Some I compile from CVS, some I buy, some run under Wine. Fact is, if I can move a game from Win2k to Linux, I do it. The only games I still have on Win2k are a couple Baldur/Icewind games and Fallout Tactics. The rest of the ones that don't work in Wine suck anyways and I never play them.
I am experimenting with Gentoo though. I'm currently rebuilding in the background in a chrooted environment from Debian. Trying to get a stable system, although I think it really might be the new Nvidia drivers that are causing the problems.
Gentoo is pretty cool, but its no Debian. It seems well suited to being a Linux gaming platform though. Its toolchain is great and it is highly optimized. Wine (compiled from CVS) on Gentoo runs faster than native windows does, whereas wine (compiled from CVS) runs like crap in Debian.
-- Clickety Click...
Re:*BSD is dying
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Anne+Thwacks
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It may have been dead one, but now its the UNDEAD [cue blood curling screams and creaking doors]
Be afraid, be very afraid, indeed ye trolls, quake in your very boots, for hordes of undead BSD zombies will haunt you day and night, and not only that, probably serve your web pages and host your e-mail too!
-- Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
Re:Tobes Of Hades Lit By Flickering Torchlight
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HRH+King+Lerxst
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...By-Tor, and the Snow Dog. Square for Battle Let the fray begin!...
-- No one got beat up more often than the mimes of the old west!
Slashdot Mirror
I done hollah right back at cha, WHAT
Q: Why'd he do it?
A: Because he hated life, and life hated him back, why else would you kill yourself? Because you're a fat loser living in his parents' basement.
So I use it too. If it's good enough for an oscar wimming actore i'ts goood enough for me.
That being said, the real website for BSD is located at www.diddlers.info.
NOW PEOPLE LEts keeping the fucking posts on topic you sick fuckers!
Now sign the fucking guestbook shitbags.
emerge -e world
It's not that hard. Yea OK, it might take a while on slower systems, but it's not hard or "system breaking".
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
Now, Apache uses a BSD style license but they have an open development model which allows them to take advantage of a very large developer pool in order to stay ahead of their competition. In fact although proprietary versions of Apache exist which perform better than the official releases, SGI has put out some open source patches which generate even larger performance boosts. This is the reason why they have such a strong showing in terms of market share.
BSD once had potential but the procedural problems they are experiencing hurt it when it comes to the market. I suspect that this is probably in part because the BSD teams are not interested in such things, and that is a shame... In fact, although I labeled it as an inferior OS, this is not due to lack of progress within BSD -- it has been progressing somewhat, but rather because all the improvements they make tend to be quickly copied by their competitors AND they lack the developer pool to stay ahead of this game (a problem which does not exist in the Linux or Apache communities, though for somewhat different reasons).
I don't think that there is enough widespread support for BSD to save the operating system. What must be done is an opening up of the development process OR a GPL-style restriction on redistribution. In many ways I favor the former.
Even in a worst case scenario, I don't see BSD completely dying. I think the developers are less into competition and more into a sort of idealized cooperation. As a result, even as FreeBSD becomes more marginalized, I don't think that it will die outright. It will most likely outlive Netware, for example.
What modem do you have? Some software modems (aka winmodems) are recognized, but given a non-standard serial port name in /dev. Couple that with pppd frontend clients that are too stupid to look for them...
/dev and the configs for your pppd frontend should get it working.
A little nosing through your
Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
Whats the word on Debian's port to the BSD kernel? Mainly I just like the feature-rich Debian platform and I don't give a rat's ass what kernel it runs on. Hell, even Debian/Hurd is a pretty sweet system if you can manage to get it work.
I, for one, would definately give Debian/BSD a spin around the block once its somewhat usable. Right now the Hurd is way more advanced than the BSD port.
The reason I don't currently use BSD is because of games. I am one of those 3L337 linux gamer dudes who not only has managed to get linux installed, but rather I have lots and lots of kickass games for it. Some I compile from CVS, some I buy, some run under Wine. Fact is, if I can move a game from Win2k to Linux, I do it. The only games I still have on Win2k are a couple Baldur/Icewind games and Fallout Tactics. The rest of the ones that don't work in Wine suck anyways and I never play them.
I am experimenting with Gentoo though. I'm currently rebuilding in the background in a chrooted environment from Debian. Trying to get a stable system, although I think it really might be the new Nvidia drivers that are causing the problems.
Gentoo is pretty cool, but its no Debian. It seems well suited to being a Linux gaming platform though. Its toolchain is great and it is highly optimized. Wine (compiled from CVS) on Gentoo runs faster than native windows does, whereas wine (compiled from CVS) runs like crap in Debian.
Clickety Click
Be afraid, be very afraid, indeed ye trolls, quake in your very boots, for hordes of undead BSD zombies will haunt you day and night, and not only that, probably serve your web pages and host your e-mail too!
Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
...By-Tor, and the Snow Dog. ...
Square for Battle
Let the fray begin!
No one got beat up more often than the mimes of the old west!