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Canadian Music Industry Drills Dentists

hereisnowhy writes "CBC reports that the tranquil music that wafts through many dental offices to soothe patients and mask the sounds of the drill may soon be silenced. The music industry is putting the bite on dentists -- demanding that they pay for the right to play it. The Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada would also like to extend this policy to 'coffee shops, clothing stores, lounges, elevators -- even radio tunes that people hear on the telephone while on hold.' Are any composers and authors actually in favour of this, or just the publishers?"

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  1. Boy Scouts by Kenshin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I once read that the Boy Scouts in the US have a list of copyrighted campfire songs they are forbidden from singing because ASCAP took them to court over it.

    THAT is scraping the bottom of the litigious barrel. Seriously.

    TOO MANY LAWYERS.

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  2. Re:ASCAP & BMI... by l810c · · Score: 5, Informative
    I was pretty certain that we didn't have to pay anything for radio. I did a search and it depends on the situation.

    With the rest of your comment I definately agree.

    When opening your own business that are invariably unforseen costs. Imagine our surprise when we get a letter only a few weeks after getting our federal tax id. And the costs turn out to be $3000, that's a real drain when opening a business on a shoestring. I think they scan the SIC codes for new businesses and attack right away.

  3. Re:"Fair use" by tradition, but not by law? by rice_web · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a law student, and something stood out in one of my text books:

    In the section "Playing music in a store or business", it lists that a fee must be paid in restaurants and bars 3,750 square feet or under and retail outlets of 2,000 square feet or under. Or the establishment must not have any more than six speakers throughout, and not more than four per room.

    It's funny, my post probably just violated fair use, as I very nearly copied the sections without quotes. Fortunately, in my case, my intent is education not profit, and the base material is federal law, which isn't copyrighted. Though it'd still be worth an argument, as, both fortunately and unfortunately, fair use is subjective, and therefore victim to the interpretation of a judge of the week.

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  4. Re:Can I still play music in my record store? by rsteele19 · · Score: 4, Informative

    That depends, are you in Canada? If you are, then yes, you must pay. See the press release from SOCAN here.

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  5. Magnatune by steveha · · Score: 4, Informative

    One solution would be to get your music from Magnatune.

    http://magnatune.com

    All Magnatune music is licensed under the Creative Commons license with terms of Attribution, NonCommercial, and ShareAlike.

    http://magnatune.com/info/openmusic

    I just studied the "Licensing" page, and I think that playing music for your customers is a "commercial" use and you would need a commercial license from Magnatune. But they offer their whole catalog for commercial use, and if you license from them, you know that 50% of whatever you pay goes straight to the artist.

    I'm not sure how much they would charge for a dentist to play music for customers, but the "Public Space" license (e.g. for playing music in the dining room of a restaurant) is $45 per year for one album.

    P.S. I'm a happy customer of Magnatune; I admire what they are doing and I hope they succeed. I have no other ties of any sort to them.

    steveha

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