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An anonymous reader writes "The Army is funding development of new super suits. From the article: 'The Army's future soldier will resemble something out of a science fiction movie'. 'The new system has the ability for each soldier to be tied into tactical local and wide-area networks with an onboard computer that sits at the base of the soldier's back' and 'The helmet has sensors that register vibrations of the cranial cavity so [soldiers] don't have to have a microphone'. The article features several photos of the suits."

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  1. Bleex? by CommanderData · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the Article:
    The uniform from the waist down will have a robotic-powered system that is connected directly to the soldier. This system could use pistons to actually replicate the lower body, giving the soldier "upwards of about 300 percent greater lifting and load-carriage capability," DeGay said. "We are looking at potentially mounting a weapon directly to the uniform system and now the soldier becomes a walking gun platform."

    I suspect that they may be calling on Berkeley for their Bleex project on this one. The Berkeley Lower Extremity Exoskeleton exists now, and I'd imagine with 10 or 15 years to work on it they could easily meet the 300% lifting and load carrying requirements. Of course the Japanese have envisioned soldiers as walking gun platforms for years. I wonder how long it'll be before we see Mecha Warriors in real life...

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    1. Re:Bleex? by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Simple momentum? Just how heavy do you think those bullets are?

      m1v1 = m2v2
      m1 = 20g
      v1 = 1400 mph (mach 2 - unrealisticly fast)
      m2 = 200lbs (light guy with equipment)

      v2 = 0.3 mph

      0.3 mph isn't much of a hit. And of course, the numbers are way high - if the bullet goes any distance it is probably going far slower.

      Granted, I still wouldn't want to be shot, but if the force were spread out over your entire body, you'd have no problem taking the hit at all - and of course that is all that body armor does - that and spread the impulse over more time, reducing the force.

  2. Re:One Question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    The US'll sell them to terrorists -- like that Saddam guy who Rumsfeld armed to fight the enemy Iran , or that Osama guy who the CIA trained to fighting the communists(enemies) in Afganistan.

    To quote that second article:

    At the CIA, it happens often enough to have a code name: Blowback. Simply defined, this is the term that describes an agent, an operative or an operation that has turned on its creators.
  3. Re:Lynndie England's panties with an RFID tag by CrowScape · · Score: 2, Informative

    It should be noted that those 2000 pound bombs dropped in residential areas are normally 2000 pounds of concrete. It's all kinetic energy, not explosive ordinance, designed to keep collateral damage down. Your IEDs, on the other hand, are designed to inflict as much collateral damage as possible, which is why Americans gawk in horror at them.

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  4. Re:Heinlein by magefile · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those who haven't read the book, or haven't seen the movie, the parent is not saying that watching the movie kept the designers from seeing the suits (which I understand were removed from the movie(, but that the book emphasized repeatedly the fact that a soldier is a soldier. That the armor is nice, but the real power is the mind inside it. There's a scene where one recruit asks (during boot camp) why they're learning to throw knives when they have rifles, machine guns, tac nukes, ad infinitum. The drill seargant's response is that an army can't let a temporary malfunction or lack of tech stop them from achieving their objective - and further, that massive tech is not always the best solution.

  5. Private armies already happening in Iraq by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 4, Informative
    Private security firms are operating as de facto soldiers in Iraq. Bet it makes the ground troops feel good to know the people work for Blackwater Security are earning 5x what they are.

    I like the fine staff these firms bring to the operation - like Apartheid-era South Africans with warrants in their own country for crimes against humanity.

  6. detecting signals by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look up "spread spectrum".

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  7. Re:Heinlein by Snocone · · Score: 2, Informative

    I heard it was due to budget constraints.

    Yep, I know someone in the animation side of things that worked on it.

    Basically, they screwed up the budget completely, and eventually had to decide: Suits, or Bugs?

    Bugs won :)

  8. Re:Lynndie England's panties with an RFID tag by Qrlx · · Score: 2, Informative

    I did a little more research and I can't find a reference to dropping concrete more recent that 1999, in reference to the No-Fly Zones (AKA the Protection Zone For Al-Qaeda Terrorists In Northern Iraq).

    Anyway, not saying that we are or are not dropping concrete these days, but I would be a little surprised if we prefaced the invasion and occupation with anything less than the most lethal air power. If you know otherwise, though, by all means school me.

    I don't see how you can say roadside IEDs are designed to inflict as much collateral damage as possible. Haji calls the cell phone when the hummer goes by. It's a military target. Car bombs, on the other hand, are the preferred weapon of the terrorist.

  9. Re:yeah by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Paul Verhoeven (sp?) movie 'Starship Troopers' was based on the Robert Heinlein novel of the same name. The movie is basically a satire of very serious concepts presented in the novel, which mightily offends many of us who are Robert Heinlein fans. It's rather like the only movie version of, say, Moby Dick, being a Ben Stiller farce of the novel. It's very, very offensive, really.

    There is an animated TV show (Roughnecks? Something like that) also based on the story, but is (I'm told) a bit more true to the nature of the original novel than the movie was, though still not quite there. I've never seen the show, so I can't give you my own assessment of it.

  10. Re:Making Deadlier Soldiers Makes Job More Dangero by Qrlx · · Score: 2, Informative

    Right, we've created our own asymmetric threat.

    Consider that the cost of the 9/11 operation was about a half a million dollars over five years. In response, we've spent about 150 billion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan in just two years.

    We are outspending the enemy 300,000 to 1. This takes pyrrhic victory to a whole new level!

  11. The only thing they need.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Is an implant so the soldier's boss can tell the difference between an enemy country, a friend country, and a country that just doesn't five a guck.

    For example:
    The majority of the terrorists on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia.
    The leader of the terrorists is a rich Saudi
    The money came from Saudi Arabia
    The terrorists got their visas to the US from Saudi Arabia (DURING BUSH'S WATCH, I might add)

    So, invade Iraq!

    "Old Europe" gave Bush's government considerable warnings about terrorists planning 9/11
    The French arrested terrorists planning on flying planes into the Eiffel Tower
    The Germans sent several communiques warning of such an attack.

    So, send Condescending Lies to tell us "we had no idea that this would happen".

    Please, we don't need cyborg soldiers, we need a president smarter than a commodore 64.