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Exploring Linux Desktop Myths

Krafty Koder writes "Over at Newsforge (Part of OSTG, Slashdot's Parent) there's an interesting article that attempts to dispells the myth that Linux isn't ready for the desktop or that Windows still beats Linux. Three myths are explored - that Linux is harder to use, difficult to install and that there's not enough apps ."

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  1. It's a myth that Windows is ready for the desktop by SteamyMobile · · Score: 0, Troll
    If someone goes out and buys an MS Windows machine and plugs it into DSL, it will be 0wnerd within minutes. The user needs to know how to install and configure a firewall, how to apply a regular stream of patches, how to read email safely, and many other things. All these are complicated issues, even for people with a good understanding of computers.

    On a good Linux distro, none of these things are necessary. They usually come with firewalls pre-configured, the mail reader doesn't execute attachments, there are no real-world Linux viruses, and, while browsers do sometimes have security holes, they are rare and tend to be less severe than IE holes. Also, there is nothing like VB which infests every "productivity" application on Windows and also means that all these apps are vulnerable to VB viruses and malicious attachments.

    So... it seems pretty clear that MS Windows is ready for a non-networked desktop. Buy the box, take it home, plug it into the power, turn it on and use it. But it's clearly not ready for networked desktop use, unless it's in a big corporation with professional network staff to keep the thing safe.

    Linux is ready to turn on and plug in without any major worries.

  2. Re:wtf modded this "insightful"? by lemon031 · · Score: 0, Troll
    Sorry, dude, but have never had anyone I've shown firefox to complain about the ways it's different from IE. Office you may have a point about, though about 85% of companies don't need MS Office and don't use most of its features.
    Sorry, dude, but sounds like you pulled that 85% figure right out of your ass. If not, I'd be interested to see where that statement comes from. Care to cite your source on that one?
  3. Re:Big stretch here by JimDabell · · Score: 0, Troll

    WinXP is the latest version of windows.

    It also comes in multiple flavours and is not as compatible with as much software and hardware as previous versions. Plenty of people are picking Windows 2000 over Windows XP.

    If you have a hard time deciding between new and old versions of the SAME operating system, bye the SAME vendor then you have larger problems.

    If you count not blindly picking a suboptimal choice just because I think "newer is better" as a problem, then yes, I have a problem.

    The fact you even tried this argument tells me you are part of the linux desktop problem and not part of the solution. Making rediculous comparisons like this does more for your ego than any OSS movement. It's called being ignorant my friend.

    I am ignorant, a problem-causer and have a big ego, just because I dared point out that there are multiple versions of Windows to choose from? That's a pretty big leap of logic.

    "newbie" is an elitist term, try calling them "users" instead. You'll go much farther without the elitism.

    "Newbie" is simply shorthand for "new user", and I don't consider it pejorative. You'll go much farther without making rash assumptions about a person's attitude based upon the jargon they use.

    Hence the problem, UI inconsistency. Or did you just skip that paragraph in my post?

    What paragraph? You buried "unified interfaces are better" in the middle of a paragraph about "looking like Windows" (sounds like consistency to me) and lack of innovation.

    Yeah, I missed those four words to begin with, but Redhat was making GNOME and KDE work alike a couple of releases ago, and since then things like GTK-Qt have come about.

    Virtual desktops is a horrible way to manage windows which is why Apple created Expose and why MS is implimenting similar tech into Longhorn.

    That's funny, users have been happily using them for years. And, in comparison to Windows, it's far, far better than *nothing*.

    Wake me up when the UNIX developers design something more intelligent than virtual desktops, which by the way was a long long time ago. I ask, what have they done since? Nothing.

    At the risk of repeating myself, what about Looking Glass?

  4. Re:wtf modded this "insightful"? by merdark · · Score: 0, Troll

    Ah. Typical biased response from a Linux faithfull.

    One piece of hardware having issues with one persons specific hardware configuration and software setup does not constitute proof of anything.

    Let's see, if what you say is true, that Linux is just awesome with hardware compatability then why does this site exist?

    http://www.linux.org/hardware/

    Why do similar sites not exist for windows? Oh, because ALL hardware is compatabile for windows and hence there is no need to create lists of it.


    OK, I call bullshit. Tons of hardware doesn't work well or easily with Windows. People just never have to deal with it because Windows gets preinstalled.


    Really? Would you like to provide some proof? Other than your lame camera and wifi example, which only suggest that you either got some bad hardware, or lucked out with a bad setup.

    Consider the fact that you may be an outlier point in the scheme of things and that for 99% of people windows works just fine. Where is my proof you ask? How about the absense of *millions* of complaints about faulty hardware. If there really were *tons* of hardware that didn't work with windows, you'd hear about it all over the news. People don't just buy hardware and then leave it on their floor when it doesn't work.

  5. Re:I'd agree with the majority, but by MOMOCROME · · Score: 0, Troll

    you spin some shameless FUD, my boy.

    Yesterday you removed some spyware. It was 297 items, mostly cookies from doubleclick. I see it all the time.

    If you'll recall, yesterday there were also a flurry of exploits announced with libpng. I want you to tell me, with a straight face, that it is easier for joe sixpack to fix this on a linux box, than it is for him to reboot XP when automatic updates tells him to. Remember, joe sixpack has to :

    1) read the security bulliten
    2) locate and download the specific files that patch or replace the library
    3) install them with what will likely be a CLI package manager
    4) determine and re-compile each app that has a dependancy on that library
    5)(optional) take the time it takes to apply the 'many eyes' principal to the resulting patched source and contribute any fixes he writes.

    on xp:
    1)reboot when automatic updates tells you to
    2)re-install the latest mozilla

    You certainly can't tell me anything about FOSS superiority in this instance. You just might try, but it'd be lies and distortions from an open source apologist desperately seeking validation of his allegience. nothing more. the sooner you admit that to yourself, the sooner we can get down to brass tacks and lift this sorry mess up into the 21st century.

  6. Re:Bogus conclusions. by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 0, Troll

    That was a mistake by the new pro-MS astro-mods.

    --
    You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.