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Why Wall Street Wants Google to Fail

Sam writes "The most anticipated initial public offering in years threatens to derail a cherished gravy train, where underpriced shares are handed out to favored investors and grateful CEOs."

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  1. Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wall Street is in the power circle and want to keep it closed. Radicals, such as the people who operate Google, are to be kept out. Greedy individuals interested in human interests and making real products have no business on Wall Street (according to Wall Street).

    1. Re:Because... by PrvtBurrito · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know. Traditionally, big brokers can by huge amounts of stock at the (lower) IPO price and make a tastey profit before it gets to the public. Google's solution to that is to offer an auction like setting, essentially eliminating the fat brokers/banks and thereby keeping the money that the broker usually makes. This sounds like an argument between wall street and google, the general public does not get a break either way. I don't feel any warm fuzzy feelings for google, when I still have to pay 120 bucks a share. Maybe I just don't understand this ipo...

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  2. And Google doesn't care... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One rare thing about Google is their "Don't Be Evil." mantra, which somewhat translates to the company turning down the chance to make quick bucks today in the expectation that they'll get that money back in the long run through their near-flawless reputation.

  3. It's not just in underwriting by scotay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These market makers have just as much contempt for the individual investors. Wall Street is all about the control structure and every level of it getting its own piece independent of whether anyone else is making money. You will see these fights as attempts to use technology to get real free and fair markets steal more and more power from "Wall Street." They're like the RIAA protecting their financial distribution networks from outsiders who seek to streamline all the crap between the buyer and seller.

  4. Re:No Purpose? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I for one as a day trader, will not be purchasing GOOG for a long time.

    It figures. Day traders do no good to the companies they invest, other then to demand immediate profits at the expense of long term solubility. Good riddance.

  5. Re:Google's IPO has already failed by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Google had done that, then the stock would have started high and then crased as time moved forward to today. From Google's present owner's point of view that wouldn't be that bad a thing, but it'd be a disaster for everybody who bid what turned out to be an overpriced value to get their shares.

    The whole point of the dutch auction setup is to assure that if anybody makes a quick buck out of a market malfunction, it's the people are selling their shares in the first place. Having a stock double or triple on IPO day is a sign that the IPO price setters blew it... they could have charged double or triple in the first place and found people who would have paid it. The quick profits in that situation go to the "IPO Insiders" who bought the shares at the original IPO price and were able to make quick turnaround sales... since the average investor has little chance of getting in on an IPO that way, it's not really fair to the little guys.

  6. Sadly, you should pay attention to this.... by Malor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The people with most of the money in the world don't like this idea, because it threatens their power, and they are likely to do more than just spread rumors to derail any such thing.

    There are a multitude of ways to depress a stock price. As Warren Buffett has said, in the short term, the stock market is a voting machine, and in the long term, it's a weighing machine. The Guys with the Money have a LOT of "voting" power.

    Over the long haul, this won't work -- you can't artificially hold a stock worth X amount of money very far below X forever. But they don't NEED forever. If they sell short, bigtime, and can hold the price down for a year or so, then they win... everyone thinks Dutch Auctions are a losing proposition.

    The guys doing this could very well take a serious bath (short sales and derivatives are dangerous), but they may figure this as a cost of doing business.... if this idea takes hold, it could cost them a lot more than the few hundred million dollars they might lose on this manipulation.

    Because of this, I fully expect that the Google IPO shares will drop fairly dramatically once they go on public sale. Personally, I'll be looking to buy in the aftermarket.