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The Unknown Newton

An anonymous reader writes "The unknown Newton -- The genius who gave us three laws of motion wrote even more about the Apocalypse and the Whore of Babylon. Eventually, all of his work -- about 10 million words -- will be on the Web. Quote from the article: 'Yet if we go by sheer word count, physics was only one of Newton's intellectual priorities. He devoted more time to what we would now regard as non-scientific topics such as theology and alchemy, writing treatise after treatise on early church history and biblical prophecy.' An interesting note on Pythagoras and religion too. Should we consider ourselves 'Natural Philosphers' instead of Scientists?" Neal Stephenson fans may find this article a nice adjunct to Quicksilver.

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  1. briefly recommended: James Gleick's bio of Newton by Martin+Doudoroff · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pantheon published a bio of Newton last year by James Gleick (Chaos, Genius). It's concise and consistently interesting.

  2. Re:Because he had to by bcrowell · · Score: 4, Informative

    He probably had to do this kind of stuff to appease the church. Scientists in this era lived in fear of the mighty clergy. Just look at what happened to Galileo!
    Read the article. His religious writings would have landed him in prison if he hadn't kept them secret.

  3. Re:I guess, if you include by bcrowell · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is way off topic for Slashdot (though right on-topic for this story), but as these topics interest me greatly, I would like to see what Newton wrote on astrology, alchemy, etc.
    He wrote millions of words on alchemy. He wrote almost nothing about astrology, except a brief statement to the effect that he thought it was nonsense.

    Indeed, I would have expected Newton's stand on Astrology and Alchemy to have made him many enemies in the Church at that time.
    Astrology was widely and openly practiced. Kings and queens used it to decide when to go to war. Only a generation before, in Galileo's time, there had been no clear distinction between astrology and astronomy. People who had the mathematical skill to do astrology/astronomy often worked for the Church on things like calculating the date of Easter (which is based on the phases of the moon).

    Alchemy had a tradition of secrecy, but I don't think it had anything to do with religious prohibitions.

  4. Re:He was a philosopher, not a physicist. by bcrowell · · Score: 3, Informative

    This had interesting implications to the way scientific papers were written. Rather than the modern form (just about 300 old) going like "Theorem-proof-example etc.", it was all heavily interwened with theology, intents of the creator, fabric of the world, etc., whatever the domain of the research in the natural sciences was!
    Not in Newton's case. In fact, the impersonal, Olympian modern style of scientific writing basically dates back to him ("hypotheses non fingo"). Theorem-proof-example was exactly the way he wrote. Take a look look at the Principia.

  5. Re:Because he had to? by Sir+Pallas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, it was a different Church and a different kind of philosophy. Aquinas revolutionized the world -- at least the understanding of religion in the West -- with his systematic system of Theology. This kind of systematic exploration made it's way into Astronomy and thus into Physics with Copernicus, Galileo, and Kepler. (Kepler, incidentally, was a better astronomer than Galileo; Galileo was certain that the obrits of planets MUST be circular because the circle is the perfect shape. Kepler realized (and told Galileo, who still didn't believe him) that the spheres must be elliptical.) Galileo, it turns out, got in trouble with the Church for a couple of reasons. He took a worldview that said that mathematics is reality. The Church contended that mathematics is only a model of reality. This was a time when scientists were still deciding whether observations made by instruments were of the same validity as obesevations made by the senses directly. (Today, imagine if we placed what we see on the news as being of the same credibility as what we see ourselves.) He was taken to trial and then retracted the definitive reality of the Copernican system, saying that it, at best, saved the accidents. This meant that it was a good model, but no one knew the reality. In fact, the stellar parallax, which was the final proof Galileo needed, was not detected until the mid 19th century. Then he only had a (mistaken) proof about the sun causing the tides. Newton, on the other hand, was not a Catholic -- he protested the King giving a chair at University to a Benedictine, which eventually led to a Revolution that removed King James II from his throne because he was a Catholic. In fact, Newton was not an orthodox Christian, believing a variant of the Arian heresy. He wrote quite a bit about the Roman Pontif being the Whore of Babylon and tried to calculate the date of the Second Coming. What we must remember is that philosophy was not so big back then that one man could no master large parts of it. Now, with so many different fields, scientists must diversify and can not be experts in all of philosophy or science. But he was certainly not obligated by any ecclesiastical body to do this or that in order to do his work.

  6. Re:Why? by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nobody's ignoring it, because it's not true. (Did you have to link to a creationist website?) Physicists and mathematicians were NOT required to be ordained. The requirement was that any fellow of Cambridge or Oxford had to be ordained. If you had a patron or were independently wealthy, then you did not have to be ordained, because you then didn't need a position at a university to do science. AFAICT, what happened with Newton was that he used a loophole - the terms of the Lucasian professorship (which he held) required that the holder not be active in the church (presumably so as to have more time for science). Newton argued that this should exempt him from the normal ordination requirement, and Charles II accepted this argument. Sure, Newton did this because of his scepticism of the trinity, and religion and science were far more intermingled then than they are today, but you are waaaay overstating the amount of control religion had over science.

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  7. Re:Because he had to? by Sir+Pallas · · Score: 3, Informative

    The situation is slightly more complex than that. The Jesuits had actually come to the same conclusions, but talked about accidents instead of the reality. Furthermore, Copernicus was praised, not persecuted, for the theory that bears his name. The strongest proof, back then, that the earth stood still was that we do not feel it move. In fact, this is the same thing the Michelson-Morley experiment found, at least with regard to light. One of Galileo's friends, a cardinal in Rome, warned him that unless he had more proof that the physical reality reflected his model, he had better lay off saying it was more than mathematics. Galileo devised something about the tides being that proof, an argument that we now know to be in error. The real proof that the earth moves is the stellar parallax: if the sphere if the stars is fixed and the earth stands still, so will the stars, which we see; but if the stars are fixed and the earth moves, the stars will move in small circles. This was not detected until much later, long after Galileo's death. The cause of his trial is probably due to the fact that in "Dialogue" he puts the argument of Pope Urban VIII -- that there are infinite ways to cause any effect, and that effects do not necessarily imply causes; and that there is something between the numbers and the world -- in the (ineffective) mouth of Simplicio, the idiot Aristotelian. There is some evidence that Galileo did, in fact, mean the retraction that he wrote up with Dominican lawyers after his trial; and the myth that he did not recant, but rather whispered "but it moves" as a postscript to his official statement, can be shown to be an invention.