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Coffee Bean Gene Mapped

brian6string writes "According to this article at ABC News Online (Australia), scientists in (where else?) Brazil say they have created the first complete map of the genetic structure of the coffee plant and Brazil's Agriculture Minister says the country will now work to develop a 'super coffee.'"

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  1. obvious mod by Froze · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make it produce 20 times the caffiene of a normal bean. Then it can compete with brazils other export the coca plant.

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    1. Re:obvious mod by macdaddy357 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Already the inferior bitter tasting species, robusta, has twice as much caffeine as Arabica, the good tasting stuff. Already, a pot of purely robusta will give you the shakes. 20 times more caffeine might be lethal.

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  2. Just what Sun needs by HMA2000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    More competition for Java

  3. Hmmm... I just rtfa by Froze · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are going to use the mapped gene literally as a map. Since Brazil has banned GMO's the genome will be used as a guide for determining which cross pollinations etc. will be most effective.

    So if you modify the genes by natural methods its not GM, but if you use artificial means to accomplish the exact same result, it is GM. God! I love the un-inteeligent masses that find this acceptable.

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    1. Re:Hmmm... I just rtfa by wind · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So if you modify the genes by natural methods its not GM, but if you use artificial means to accomplish the exact same result, it is GM. God! I love the un-inteeligent masses that find this acceptable.

      Clarification question: Find GM acceptable or find this supposed confounding acceptable?

      Anyway, call me Dr. Stupid, but I think there is a substantive difference between having the means to be really selective about your breeding and splicing genetic code out of one species to put into another.

      It seems to me that we are where we are today because clever, patient people "genetically modified" their animals and crops through careful breeding. I don't see how what Brazil is proposing is different. I'm pleased that they'd using this method instead of going in with the high tech equivalent of knives and tweezers to play switcheroo and put genes together in combinations that nature hasn't pre-tested for us.

    2. Re:Hmmm... I just rtfa by Froze · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Note carefully what I said..."exact same result"

      I am not advocating gene splicing from other organisms etc. All I find odd is that if you apply cross breeding and get gene sequence 'gattaca' it is OK, but if you use tweezers and knives and get gene sequence 'gattaca' it is evil.

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  4. Not Just Brazil by martyb · · Score: 3, Informative

    Brazil is not the only place performing these analyses... check out what they are doing in Hawaii

  5. Better watch the IP issues by dpilot · · Score: 3, Funny

    They MUST be infringing on SCO IP, somewhere, somewow!

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  6. Hmmm by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Bloomberg has a story that's less cutesy but more interesting. Some excerpts:
    ``This a jump of at least two decades in the race to unlock the coffee genome,'' Brazilian Agriculture Minister Roberto Rodrigues said in a statement on his ministry's Web site.

    A two-year government project studied 200,000 sequences of coffee DNA and identified 35,000 genes, which in combination give the drink its flavor and aroma, the statement said.

    The DNA database will be open to Brazilian companies in about five or six years, and foreign competitors will be able to access patented information on payment of royalties, Clayton Campanhola, the head of Brazilian agricultural research agency Embrapa, was cited by Reuters as telling journalists in Brasilia.

    Rodrigues told reporters that Brazil would produce a ``super coffee'' through cross-pollination of coffee plants and not through genetic modification, according to the British Broadcasting Corp.

    Brazil has banned the planting and sale of genetically modified crops.

    This makes minimal sense to me, although it does explain why the other stories don't mention a publication. They spend two years, it's a jump of two decades, they're done but Brazilian companies can't see the data for five or six years and foreign companies will have to offer royalties? Pardon my cynicism, but what exactly do they have right now? Some shotgun coverage? ESTs?

    Meanwhile, this is a few months work for any of the major genome centers. If there's really any commercial value to this, I can't imagine the coffee industry wouldn't just sponsor a publically-available ccommercial genome, like every other major agricultural crop has or will have. No one is going to wait five years and then give Brazil royalties.

  7. Sinners! Heathens! Heretics! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    However, it hopes to use the data to raise production of gourmet, organic and new caffeine-free beans within two years.

    Caffeine-free coffee! How dare they!?

  8. thinkgeek.com by Damingo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So the map of a coffee bean. thinkgeek have already got a caffine molecule on a T-Shirt so how long till they have a genitic map of a coffee bean on a T-Shirt. You saw it here first guys, so i recon that if they do then all /.ers should get a free T! Damingo

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  9. Imagine Juan Valdez by Man+in+Spandex · · Score: 3, Funny

    He must be one pissed mofo to have scientists work on beans.
    and I quote from beavis & butthead

    "It is in these hills that Juan Valdez and his trusty goat gather coffee beans every morning."

  10. Re:Disingenuous Lying by Sgt+York · · Score: 3, Insightful
    generate combinations that are tuned to live in harmony with their environment

    That s not really right. On an individual scale, natural selection does not seek harmony with the environment. Natural selection seeks nothing, and tunes to nothing except the amplification of oneself. Organisms do not seek to live in harmony with the environment, they seek to exploit it the best they can. The environment (i.e., the other organisms around it) counter this by trying to exploit each other in the same manner. This is natural selection. Selective breeding accelerates this process drastically.

    Where a gene may provide a benefit that will increase its frequency over a period of several thousand years under the influence of natural selection, selective breeding can do it in a century or less. Selective breeding is far from a natural process. Selective breeding acts on one species, and accelerates the selection in that species for a given trait or set if traits. The surrounding species (the environment) do not experience the same increase in rate.Remember; I am not comparing GM to natural selection, but to selective breeding.

    if breeding created a more hardy competitor, don't you think nature would have created it by now over the 4.5 billion years it's been at work?

    This should be fairly obvious, but it has resulted in a hardier competitor. Many, many times. That's evolution. And simply stating that something is "flat out destructive" does not make it so. I'm not saying that GM is de facto safe, just that it's not by default unsafe, either. In fact, the resarch that has been done points to "safe".

    Also, I can't think of a single mechanism other than improved hardiness that would cause an organism to be destructive. Otherwise, it wouldn't be able to compete with indigenous species and would be wiped out.

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  11. Re:Starbucks rejoice! by phillymacmike · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sorry, but the idea of a cow's teat, full of frappacino, growing out of my chest, doesn't seem like that good an idea....

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