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IBM Adding Almost 19,000 Jobs

cyngus writes "IBM has announced they will add 18,800 jobs worldwide in 2004. They say about a third will be in North America. I don't know how many they have added this year so far. After the new hires IBM will employ about 330,000 people worldwide." More good news for the unemployed techie. Although things are far from the halcyon days of dot-com yesteryear, it's good to see companies doing better.

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  1. Re:Are These Outsourced Or Here by Greg+Larkin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Based on the article summary: 18800 * 2/3 = 12533 non-US jobs

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  2. Too many already by Fred+Nerk · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know from personal experience that IBM employ a LOT of people that are only there because of IBM's previous "Redeploy, not redundancy" policy. I worked in teams where hundreds of people spent their day printing out online forms, then typing them into another online form.

    It seemed that they were creating jobs just to keep people there, when I was pushing for working smarter, and laying off 70% of the staff.

    I wasn't popular.

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  3. Re:Still sounds kinda grim. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, the original poster is playing hype games. It was under 10,000 US jobs that have been lost.

  4. Re:My degree by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Informative

    No matter how good you are, you still have to get your foot in the door. If nobody's hiring in your field, or they're looking for qualifications you don't have, you're still screwed. Alas, the idea of hiring somebody that will learn new things and grow into the job never occurs to too many companies today. They want you to be skilled in everything they need before you get there. Of course, if you are that skilled, you're probably looking for a job that needs more than just those skills. What they seem to end up with is somebody that can just squeek by on the qualifications enough to BS their way through the interview. Once they've done that, they think they don't need to learn anything more, so the company ends up with staff that's on the edge of incompetence.

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  5. IBM is a sweatshop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just quit there. I was treated better in blue collar assembly lines than I was at IBM.

    IBM gets business and charges less because they pigeonhole everyone. If you do websphere, thats all you do.

    If you do email, thats all you do. It's like working a government job.

    It was exactly like the military. If the process says to do the wrong thing, do it anyway.

    It's mindless.

    Better than unemployment, but not by a whole lot.

  6. At least 1,000 of these are "rebadged" jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know from experience, that at least 1,000 of these jobs belong to "rebadged" employees. I was layed off from a large Fortune 500 company that "rebadged" 1,000 of it's software development staff to IBM. Basically, these 1,000 employees were given the choice of excepting a job with IBM to work on what they were currently working on as an IBM employee or take a severence package. The company I worked for basically sold more that 98% of it's development staff to IBM. Therefore at least 1,000 jobs were NOT created. They were just shifted from one company to another. Although this is supposed to be a 2 year contract, there is no guarantee that these jobs will not move off shore after the contract expires.