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Stunning, Classic Computer Console, from 1958?

Predicta Lover writes "It's widely believed that the late-50s Predicta series was the swansong for Philco. After its introduction, RCA's president David Sarnoff is quoted as having said "Philco has reinvented the industry and made TV more exciting again." Somehow, I can't imagine Bill reacting that way to an Apple product launch, at least not publicly. Years later, Philco's phenomenally-designed but questionably-engineered and over-priced TV sets are an icon of modern television design, and are even made in a stunning reproduction form. Maybe Philco would still be in business if they'd thought to shoehorn a contemporary computer into the box and put a high-resolution LCD up top (ahh, I guess that would've been tough...oh, the cruelties of history). At any rate, the researchers and designers at Onomy Labs did just that, 45 years later, and the result is an absolutely lust-worthy piece of computing hardware. Built to eventually house an experimental computer being produced by Sun Labs, the supercharged piece made its debut at their recent Open House held at the Computer History Museum.The Pedestal model that's used here was originally penned by Philco's Catherine Winkler, and is variously described as being inspired by the ideal female form and looking like a gas pump (I am not even going to touch that one). The perpetrators of this project have been mildly vilified by classic TV collectors (fearing imitators) and highly praised by most everyone else...some are calling it the 'best casemod ever'. I don't know about that, but it's definitely a beautiful object."

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  1. Best casemod ever? by SYFer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bah. I'm underwhelmed. It actually looks pretty ungainly to me with that tall pedestal base (not exactly an ergonomic delight unless you're a giraffe). I'd prefer a mod of the Holiday model if anything, but I'm afraid I'm with the angry Predicta collectors on this one. Must make 'em wince to see Windows 2000 leering out at them when it should be Lucille Ball.

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    1. Re:Best casemod ever? by liminality · · Score: 2, Informative

      i saw one of these at a garage sale some months ago and my first thought was "what an amazing casemod this would be!".

      admittedly, it doesnt look like much in these pictures, but in real life the thing would look totally wicked as your digital entertainment hub.

    2. Re:Best casemod ever? by JasdonLe · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I COMPLETELY agree with you. Retro... Fuck Retro... The biggest problem with the 2000's (yes, STILL no one knows what to call them, four years into the deal) is that there is we still haven't moved in any one direction, there is no identity. Retro isn't huge just because everyone who grew up in the 80's has money now... There's this RANDOM lack of creativity. I'm not saying that *I* have the answer, or the vision for the 21st century... But I am saying that 100 years ago people were DEFINING a new century, not dredging up an old one.

      Fuck retro. Let's make something new

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    3. Re:Best casemod ever? by JasdonLe · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's easy to say that kind of thing now, Mr. Monday Morning Quarterback. But keep in mind that just over 100 years ago Expressionism, Cubism, Surrealism, and not to mention ABSTRACT ART, had never really been done before. New tools were encouraging new ways of thinking. Photography challenged the traditional notion of painting and it didn't just end with art. Show me the Eiffel Towers before wrought iron.

      Man, even sans serif type isn't that old, and there you're talking about a completely new way of writing English. This idea that even 100 years ago everything was being stolen is off base, if that was even your point.

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  2. back in my day by thexdane · · Score: 4, Funny

    i remember back in my day we had punch cards all lined up in order and we would see who could feed them through the fastest and we liked it

    1. Re:back in my day by SYFer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Luxury! In my day we used Windows 2000 on a lame Predicta vintage TV casemod!

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  3. It's got /. on the display! by Compholio · · Score: 3, Funny

    Check out the display! It has /. on it!

    http://www.onomy.com/blue/images/headshotf.jpg

  4. RTFA??? by MagicDude · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think this is the first time I didn't want to RTF-Summary. Longest one I've seen ever :)

  5. too much text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not reading all that shit! This is /., give me the condensed form and link the rest so I can ignore it and make assinine comments.

  6. Huh? by istewart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The television in my bedroom is branded Philco, yet it couldn't have been purchased more than seven or eight years ago. Yet they went out of business in the middle of last century? What's goin' on here? Cheap Asian knockoffs like those Commodore MP3 players?

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The television in my bedroom is branded Philco, yet it couldn't have been purchased more than seven or eight years ago. Yet they went out of business in the middle of last century? What's goin' on here?


      Nothing special. Technically, RCA went completely out of business (in CE) in 1986. RCA brand is simply a stamp of Thomson Consumer Electronics (which likes to use the name GE Consumer Electronics mark depending on the current customer sentiment and the whim of GE corporate).

      Same goes for Magnavox which has really been Phillips for years.

  7. Reminds me of ... by value_added · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone seen Terry Gilliam's Brazil? The "monitors," while not quite so stylishly retro, resembled an old Underwood typerwriter with a screen in front of which was mounted a hilariously-oversized rectangular magnifying glass attachment. Brilliant.

    I'm not so sure I would want one, or a Philco update, but somewhere between CRT monoliths, plastic flat-screens striving to distinguish themselves, Apple's attempts at novelty and the uber-kewl designs we regularly see in Sci-Fi movies, I'm sure eventually we'll be face to face with something far more interesting.

  8. It's a sacrelige by sakusha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The classic Predicta TV, if well maintained in working order, still receives video as well as it did when it was new, and will continue to work for many years to come. But if you tear out the guts and put in a computer, you have a box that will be obsolete within months.

    1. Re:It's a sacrelige by sakusha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You miss the obvious point. The Predicta has already worked for 40+ years without any upgrades. A vintage Predicta tube TV is a work of electronic art. A casemod CPU is a kluge of mass produced junk that is lucky to go 40 weeks before it's superceded by newer equipment.

    2. Re:It's a sacrelige by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No. The Predicta is obsolete. It can't display HDTV. I assume it doesn't have an s-video input; for that matter, I assume its only inputs are 300 and 75 ohm antenna wire. Its already obsolete; modifying it to accept modern video signals fed to a modern video screen makes it significantly less so.

      And I may be the only one, but while I can see the appeal of it as an example of 50s design, I personally find it ugly and would not allow it in my home.

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    3. Re:It's a sacrelige by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Right, because only gay people are allowed to have a fucking sense of style, yeah?

      I think its ugly. I don't put ugly things in my house. Do you? I mean, beyond your boyfriend?

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  9. No, actually, they're being vilified because... by John+Miles · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The perpetrators of this project have been mildly vilified by classic TV collectors (fearing imitators) ... there are only so many Predictas left, and Philco isn't making any more of them.

    Here's an idea: modern Predicta reproductions are available, so why not buy a repro and case-mod it instead of trashing a really neat, really valuable technological artifact from another age?

    This is no better than gutting a classic Zenith console radio to make a fishtank. It's lame as hell.

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    1. Re:No, actually, they're being vilified because... by krymsin01 · · Score: 4, Funny

      C'mon. My antique egyptian mummy case mod is the leetnes.

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    2. Re:No, actually, they're being vilified because... by zangdesign · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's hilarious that the collectors are so up in arms about someone modding out a Predicta TV, when you consider that one less on the market raises the value of their collection ever so slightly.

      What's so damn sacred about the design anyway? Sure, it's a nice-looking TV, but it's obsolete which makes it a prime candidate for re-use as something a little more modern.

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    3. Re:No, actually, they're being vilified because... by John+Miles · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's hilarious that the collectors are so up in arms about someone modding out a Predicta TV, when you consider that one less on the market raises the value of their collection ever so slightly.

      No, actually, it's not "hilarious" once you realize that the more hardcore collectors aren't in it to make money, but to see rare and important examples of old-school tech preserved for posterity. Believe me, old TV sets aren't much better as investments than they are as PC cases.

      There is a certain aesthetic quailty to an old chassis full of hot, glowing vacuum tubes, capacitors that smell like beeswax, resistors that actually look big enough to block an electron or two, and wiring that might kill you with a touch. Some folks are into that. If you have to ask, you're probably not one of them. Which is fine.

      So, why not leave the genuine article to those who will appreciate it? Buy a reproduction Predicta, duct-tape your IDE disk-access light to the side, and pretend it's the real thing. If you're right, it doesn't really matter, does it?

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    4. Re:No, actually, they're being vilified because... by toddestan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't see it as that bad. What else are you going to do with the empty Predicta shells after cannibalizing the sets to restore other Predictas to original working condition?

  10. Re:One word..... by deglr6328 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, it's 'orrid! There's a reason designs go out of style.

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  11. Back at you grandad by taj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The space-age theme was promoted in ads promising "TV today from the world of tomorrow".

    Computer today from the world of the yesterday.

    Neat idea.

  12. As a kid, I had one of these TV sets.... by Newer+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I pulled it out of a trash can, actually, It needed a flyback transformer, which cost something like 100 bucks at the time. Fortunately, my dad had a close friend that owned a TV repair shop and he was able to use one from a more common TV set (I think it was an RCA). The picture was pretty good. Mine had an analog clock on the right side that could turn the TV on (an alarm TV!). The screen rotated so you culd see it from anywhere in the room. Alas, when my family moved when I was 15, it stayed and likely wound up in a landfill. A truly stunning TV...As a 11 year old I didn't appreciate it fully though.

  13. Ewww by Itstoearly · · Score: 5, Funny

    That thing must be a black hole for feng shui. You'll need to pay some chinese guy thousands of dollars to remove it from your home.

  14. War... war never changes. by Txiasaeia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I the only one who saw this and immediately thought "Fallout" here? All they need is Pipboy with the thumbs up in a gas attendant uniform on the case and they're set to go. *Sigh*, Fallout.

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  15. Brazil "Case Mod" by hanway · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Somebody has already done one, based on an Underwood typewriter and a Macintosh SE: http://www.ahleman.com/ElectriClerk.html/

    1. Re:Brazil "Case Mod" by hanway · · Score: 3, Informative

      Remove trailing slash from URL to make it work:
      http://www.ahleman.com/ElectriClerk.html

  16. What the hell? by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you put your monitor on top of your tower case? Of course not, because you don't want your neck to throb with pain for the rest of your life. That thing looks like it's about three feet higher than the desk. Every time you use your computer you feel like you got to a movie late and had to settle for the front row. Wow sign me up for this case, it's a model of practicality and ergonomics.

  17. "Hardware Hacking" icon? by JThundley · · Score: 2, Funny

    Please pick something better for a hardware hacking icon, that orange 3 to 2 pin electricity adapter thing implies electricity too much.

    How about an icon involving a pci card and glue?

  18. and for the dark side of Sarnoff.... by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Interesting
    After its introduction, RCA's president David Sarnoff is quoted as having said "Philco has reinvented the industry and made TV more exciting again."

    And now, for the dark side of Mr. Sarnoff, who did NOT invent the TV set:

    http://www.time.com/time/time100/scientist/profi le/farnsworth03.html

    Sarnoff and RCA are the scum of the earth; they ruined a guy's life simply to not have to pay him royalties; thankfully, history has for the most part set the record straight for anyone who digs a little.

    Pretty sad; Farnsworth never saw a dime and went into deep depression over the whole thing. Farnsworth saw the waste of his invention almost from the get-go; as the Time article says, his son said "I suppose you could say that he felt he had created kind of a monster, a way for people to waste a lot of their lives."

    Nothing's changed in 50 years- corporations still bully the "little guy" like this. Back in the 80's, a company my father started had technology stolen from them by NCR (National Cash Register Corporation). Despite a signed NDA, NCR ripped off technology they were demo'd. There was clear evidence NCR had stolen the design, they had the NDA in hand, etc- but NCR managed to drag it out in court for years. I believe the suit was abandoned due to lack of funds, but I don't recall- it was a subject that was not discussed often or pleasantly in our house.

    I hope they rot in hell- they helped cripple the company, which was working on some really innovative touch screen technology. Much of the touchscreen technology, now in use by PDAs and whatnot, you can owe to DTI- Digital Techniques Inc- a tiny little Burlington, MA company nobody ever heard of. Probably their most "famous" product was the very early touchscreen system in Super Stop and Shop where you could enter a product name and get a map to where it was in the store; they also did some award winning videodisk based exhibits for the Museum Of Science. They were also bullied out of an air traffic control system project with the FAA...by Raytheon. DTI designed a system that, in the late 80's, would have allowed a controller to manage all his electronics(radios and whatnot) from one small touchscreen system. Decades ahead of its time.

    1. Re:and for the dark side of Sarnoff.... by davidu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sorry that happened, but I think you've missed the lesson here:



      Great technology isn't enough, you need the winning team and business side to go with it.


      I'm not a fan of business things and legal issues either but they are needed and you can't go into situations without the smartest people on your side of the table...that's just how it works, unfortunately.

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  19. Sigh by TequilaJunction · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is possibly the most convoluted summary I've ever seen on /.

  20. And don't forget Atari, SCO, Napster... by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nowadays it seems that the trend of wearing the skin of a deceased beloved company like a corporate Ed Gein is increasing in today's post-dot-com business climate.

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    1. Re:And don't forget Atari, SCO, Napster... by gilroy · · Score: 2, Funny
      Blockquoth the poster:

      Nowadays it seems that the trend of wearing the skin of a deceased beloved company like a corporate Ed Gein is increasing in today's post-dot-com business climate.

      Well, you're not allowed to cut off your enemy's head and carry it like a trophy anymore...
  21. Speaking of ads by lrucker · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Found this Photoshop contest earlier today:

    Vintage Ads

    Contest Directions

    In this contest your challenge is to take modern products and display them in a vintage light, through advertisements. You can also reverse the challenge and take vintage products and display them in a modern way.

  22. Um, no. by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This thing is ass ugly and has that "don't touch me, I came from goodwill and you don't know where I've been" look to it.

    I have no idea how anyone can compare this to an iMac. Hell, an average white box PC with a flat panel is about 10x more aesthetically pleasing.

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  23. Impractical? by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Informative
    umm.. pretty but not very practical

    When is a case mod practical, aside from this one.

    I remember finding a few of those old Philco's on the curb come trash day and they were nasty beasts. We dragged one home look through it and the shielding wasn't very good, if one of these things, and several were not very stable, fell over you could have a fire in short order. These things undoubtably predated consumer product saftety testing and who knows what kind of radiation they leaked. It didn't become much of an issue until the late 60's

    For a case mod, I would only consider one of thse with a 17" or larger LCD display, but it would probably look fairly dorky and the beatuy of LCD displays is they're small enough that you can place them where you need, rather than being fixed to the computer, like laptops.

    Casemodding isn't my cuppa, though some do end up looking kinda cool.

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  24. Re:Memories by 6Yankee · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I was a child, my parents put their "Penthouse" model in my bedroom

    I've been trying to get a Penthouse model into my bedroom for years...
  25. undead by mzs · · Score: 2, Informative

    Philco is an undead company, driven out of business long ago and its name owned by one of the Asian contract manufactures. The same is true of the Sylvania, KLH, and Koss "brand names" which I have at home. When I bought the Koss stereo it was shortly after this happened. I should have realized that something was up when the price was so low. When I took it home and noticed there was no ground strip on the receiver I was very disappointed. I was young and naive back then. But now-a-days much of the once high-end equipment is made by the contract manufactures and it is all the same steaming pile anyways.