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Hydra vs. Shredder

azaris writes "The powerful computer chess engine Hydra, running on a sixteen-way Linux cluster, is taking on the many times world champion engine Shredder in a match between the two chess super computers in Abu Dhabi, according to ChessBase.com. So far, Hydra is leading by two clear victories." S!: ChessBase also points to the announcement of a "64,000 square meter International Chess City" in Dubai, planned to cost US $2.6 billion, which "will feature 32 buildings designed to mirror the image of a traditional black and white game board."

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  1. Re:Wow. by cytoman · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It doesn't have to be 60 million different chess players. Just like tourists are counted again if they return, the numbers don't mean they are unique. redundancy rules... like when McDonalds says "billions served".

  2. great ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Abu Dabi gets a multi billion dollar tacky las vegas style exhibit while millions in Sudan and Africa starve, imagine how many water pipes and medical supplies you could buy for 2.3 billion large

    oh well i guess we can dream and play chess while others worry about being pawns in someone elses game

    1. Re:great ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I thought helping out the Sudan and Africa was supposed to be the USA's job.

    2. Re:great ! by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "(Dubai) gets a multi billion dollar tacky las vegas style exhibit while millions in Sudan and Africa starve, imagine how many water pipes and medical supplies you could buy for 2.3 billion large"

      All the devout Muslims in Dubai are already tithing to charities as required by their faith. Just how much of their paychecks do you think they should be required to part with?

  3. 64,000 square meter by dj245 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So the square will be 8 kilometers on one side? 4.8 miles? I hope a lot of it is courtyard between the buildings.

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  4. many times world champion engine Shredder by trb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The "many times world champion engine" Shredder, is not the current world champion engine. That would be Junior, which is programmed by Israeli Jews. You wouldn't want them in Abu Dhabi, would you?

    1. Re:many times world champion engine Shredder by trb · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Blitz championships, in human chess, as in computer chess, are of minimal relevance (compared to chess at full time controls). I did not say that Shredder was not a good program, Shredder is a fine program. It is not, however, the champion program.

      As for being called an asshole by an anonymous coward, if I were an asshole, I would prefer that to being a coward.

  5. Re:The Futue by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >We'll just pit computers against one another, and people won't even play anymore.

    Why?

    Humans still compete with each other at lifting weights, moving fast, and throwing things. Machines have long since outclassed us at those activities but we still relish the challenge.

  6. Chess, Islam, and Arab governments by D.+Book · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FIDE President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov has just unveiled a plan to build a new "chess city" in the Emirate of Dubai. It's a US $2.6 billion project that is expected to play host to (hold on to your hats) 60 million amateur and professional chess followers annually.

    This would be a monumental example of the one of the reasons (brutal repression being another) why the present leadership in Arab countries is so detested by their own Muslim populations and others of that faith around the world. Chess is considered undesirable in Islam, and many consider it Haraam (forbidden under Islamic law). The latter is the view held by the most respected Islamic scholars such as Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.

    While I don't condone this aspect of Islam, in the same way I don't condone the Pope's view on condoms, one can't fail to recognise what a massive insult this is to their religion. If you don't, imagine if the American government allowed a $2.6 billion mosque complex to be constructed in the "bible belt", to be visited by 60 million Muslims each year. If that analogy does not suffice, imagine instead the reaction to a 64,000 square meter family-planning/abortion centre to cater for 60 million women from around the world, right in the middle of the Protestant heartland.

  7. Re:The Futue by jnana · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Silicon-based computers excel at logic. Carbon-based computors excel at pattern-recognition and that whole sphere of massively parallel modes of thinking that one might call intuition.

    The best carbon chess players are still about equal with the best silicon chess players, and they sure as hell are not doing that with silicon-type logic (evaluating billions of nodes in a search tree). That implies to me that there's a hell of a lot of intuition, for want of a better word, in chess.

  8. Re:$2.6 billion? by Zakabog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow I totally agree, this is stupid. We all know 2.6 Billion dollars can end world hunger, the conflict in the middle east AND global warming. Unfortunately before no one has EVER had this kind of money to spend, so now that we have a chance we should put this money into solving those problems right away!

    Do you realize how many billions of dollars are spent daily on stuff much MUCH less profitable and important than an international chess city? Do you realize 2.6 billion dollars isn't all that much money?

  9. Re:GNU/Chess by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i would say that an AI that can beat a human for their first year is pretty damned good.

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  10. Re:$2.6 billion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And just how much are the yankee imperialist bastards spending for their war on brown people? Couldn't they cure aids or develop Virtual Reality projects so that they can fuck with everyone else's self determination in a virtual world without making enemies of everyone in the real world?