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Intel Delays TV Chip Launch
portscan writes "The Financial Times is reporting that Intel has dropped a planned technology that would have halved the price of big-screen televisions by year end. This is the latest mistep in Intel's consumer market strategy. Slashdot has reported on the technology, LCOS, before."
Somehow I like this little press twist on that - as if it was *illegal* for TI to take the market lead on something before intel could get the market for themselves...
Is this something that could also be done well with OLEDs?
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that would have halved the price of big-screen televisions by year end
Work on the clear english! It wouldn't have halved the price of televisions by year end, it would have been released by year end, with the expectation that it's use could halve the cost of big-screen televisions at some point.
This is extremeley disappointing. After seeing the technology at this past CES, I've specifically held off buying an HDTV to wait until next spring to get one of these.
With Toshiba canceling their LCOS earlier this year, and now this, I'm starting to wonder exactly what is wrong with LCOS. I've heard rumors that the yield isn't high enough, but still.
From what I was told at CES, Intel was hoping to revolutionize TVs like they did computers. Their goal in creating a LCOS chipset was to basically create a motherboard for TVs. Want to build a 36" LCOS HDTV tv? Use this board plus this chip. Want a 50"? Same board with a slightly bigger socket to hold the chip / mirror.
It wasn't even the price reduction that got me excited - the quality of the picture was supposed to have been a step up from current DLP (and at half the price, I wasn't going to complain). Ah well, back to drooling over the Samsung or JVC DLPs.
Perhaps this is a little off topic, but can someone explain to me why there is such a huge price discrepency between standard 4:3 televisions and standard widescreen televisions? For instance, here in Australia a 68cm 4:3 Sony TV costs around A$850-900. A 76cm widescreen costs about A$2000-2500.
Am I missing something obvious, or is this just blatant pimping of the market while demand for widescreens is high? I can't see why there would be much more tech involved in a widescreen vs. standard ratio screen.
As a secondary question (for extra credit), are people really so dumb that they don't realise that a large 4:3 TV is the same *width* as a marginally smaller 'widescreen' TV at a fraction of the price? If consumers are this dumb, what hope is there for market-driven 'evolution' of technology?
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We've got to work more on FPGA programming.
Depending more on the chip fab giants is going to start getting us nowhere.
If some guys didn't start making computers in their garages, but rather they were made in corporate labs first, they wouldn't have come with cases that open and expansion slots, most likely.
Now it's the chips that we have to make.
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LCOS has already been around for five or ten years. JVC and I think some others have been selling some LCOS RPTVs for a few years now.
It has the advantage of having the highest fill ratio, which means a very minimal gap between pixels. While the LCOS systems are more expensive, they are the most affordable digital display for high resolutions such as SXGA+, UXGA and even 1080p.
Currently TI holds the patent on micro mirror arrays. If you want DLP, it must use a TI chip. I'm not sure if home DLP has the huge manufacturer mark-up that you claim, but I've never seen any dealer vs. street price comparisons, anywhere.
For reference on the value of DLP systems, I had my 43" DLP TV serviced by a technician (under warranty of course) because of startup problems and he replaced the light engine. The light engine is basically all of the important parts of the TV (DLP chip, control circuitry and optics) which is built onto one large assembly.
Being an electrical engineer I of course asked what he was going to do with the old one, I mean it still worked 95% of the time. He told me that they get sent back to Samsung (probably to be reworked) and that they are an $1800 assembly. Basically this tells me that if you add on the rest of the components (outer case, projection surface, input jacks and circuitry) a price of about $2200-$2400 is not too unreasonable for what most would consider a luxury item.
It turns out that I didn't do too poorly when I bought it for about $2600 new after a crazy set of good deals that included a sale on large TVs, a $300 rebate sign that was left out on the floor past the rebate period (hooray for threats of false advertising!) and no sales tax =)
This unit normally sold for about $3500
For further reference, Samsung DLPs are awesome.
Dewey, you fool! Your decimal system has played right into my hands!
Intel is stumbling over it's wireless initiative, and wondering if the last 5 years invested in that effort is being squandered. The original enthusiasm for seamless adoption of 'wireless computing' has left the building (cell phones, on the other hand, have taken off).
Seems too many big gambles are making Intel big-wigs think twice these days. The LCOS effort is just another example of too little...too late by a company that is too big and too slow.
I can't believe no-one pointed this out yet - LCOS in current implementations is critically flawed. Part of the chip used for image display deforms over time and cannot be 'undone'. No amount of screensavers or screenblanking will keep this from happening. I'm not sure what Philips is doing, but all the others pulled their sets because of this problem.
Ok so where do I go to get a $100.00 approx new lamp for either an InfoxusX1 or BenQ 6100? Both these projectors are now around $800, but I have held off buying either because of the need to buy $300.00 replacement lamps:( I too was holding off buying an HD TV waiting for the LCOS with "Intel" inside. I guess I am personally disappointed but I see where they are going. Why do a "me too" 720P chipset for One Megapixel when you could shake up the entire industry with a 2 Megapixel chipset at a decently low cost. You would OWN HD TVs sector going forward especially if the until upgraded DVDs to 1080P!!!! My mouth waters. Rumor has it they will show such a unit at the Jan 2005 CES... Can't wait.