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NASA Helps Clearing The Fog

Roland Piquepaille writes "NASA's Aviation Safety and Security Program wants to cut fatal accident rates by 80 percent over the next ten years. To reach this goal, NASA researchers used "tunnel-in-the-sky" synthetic vision systems (SVS) in recent flights on a Gulfstream V over Reno, Nevada. A guest pilot for Aviation Week & Space Technology (AWST) went onboard and writes that 'NASA Team Brings Synthetic Vision to Maturity.' He was able to see that SVS concepts, such as voice-controlled synthetic vision displays, a runway incursion protection system, database integrity monitoring technology, and enhanced vision sensors meshed with SVS images, were really effective in eliminating low-visibility-induced accidents. However, NASA doesn't say anything about the availability of SVS for commercial airlines. This summary contains more details and illustrations about key SVS concepts."

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  1. 80% ? I doubt it. by Jesrad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's been three decades since the average number of incident per million movement has stagnated, how do this project's managers think they'll be effective where nothing was in all this time ?

    Adding information to the pilot's input is probably not a good idea. Risk management experts such as René Amalberti have explained in great length that sensory overload exhausts cognitive resources, leaving little for actual piloting. The only few occasions where some new information technology would probably prove useful are situations where lack of information leads to a dangerous difference between what the pilot THINKS is happening, and what is REALLY happening. These sorts of difference is what leads to catastrophe (Sharm el Cheik being only one). I think there are a number of occasions where the SVS would help, but how many new loopholes, how many false assumptions ("The system does not show THAT so the situation is safe") will it introduce ?

    I'll keep my doubt until I see the system's limitations.

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  2. Re:What about after landing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It depends on the aircraft. Certain aircraft, like the 747-400, are certified for zero-zero (visibility and ceiling) flight. More commonly, however, is a minimum visibility requirement (50-50 IIRC).

    When I was working for a regional airline out of Midway in Chicago, the pilots used a gentleman's club called "The Lusty Lady" near the end of the runway to make their "go no-go" decision. If they could see it on approach, they had good enough visibility, otherwise they had to go around and/or fly to another destination.

  3. Same tech on autos? by Chris+Daniel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wonder when we'll get to see this same technology on production automobiles. I remember hearing about multiple-car pileups in larger cities due only to foggy or otherwise low-visibility conditions. Think of the number of lives this could save.

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  4. Re:Tunnel-in-the-sky already exists, it's just bet by TurretMaster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As I get it, the point is not that the position information is more accurate,as it still comes from the same mix of radio beacons, inertial navigation systems an GPS datas. It is just that the data is more readable for the pilot.

    Yet i'm not sure it's more useful: Commercial airliners are _all_ equiped with "Flight directors", with seems to be the best info a pilot could get. It is displayed as two bars on the artificial horizon, and tells the pilot which way he should move the commands to follow in the best possible way the planned route, heading, vertical speed, ILS, speed, whatever the pilot chose to follow.

    It uses derivates to the second degree of the raw position data to compute intercept path and anticipations, and following it is a breeze : just keep the cross centered, and you'll get a smooth, perfect trajectory. Cross up, you pull until it's centered. Cross left, bank left until centered. No brain required.

    I'm not sure fancy graphics would be quite as reliable or useful: have you ever tried following a tunnel thing in some flight simulator ? It's much harder than stupidly keeping a cross centered, especially after a long trancoceanic flight ;-)

  5. Re:How is this different... by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    better visualisation.

    you know, like when you play all those fancy pc space sims and there's helper virtual tunnels and shit to help you land and see the planned route 'floating' in air.

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  6. Im a private pilot, and this looks great but... by vmaxxxed · · Score: 4, Interesting



    How expesive is it going to be ??????

    HSI's are expensive enough that not every one has them...!!!

    80%.... I dont think so.
    More over, this is so unrealistic, that it really makes me think this is being done by scientists with 0 flight hours, not pilots.

    I love flying, and I think the situation is so sad.

    The FAA presumes every year of declining accident rates, yes, sure, what they dont tell you is that their pretty charts dont show the also declining number of total pilots every year.

    I can see it, by 2020, new mandatory equipment for all IFR flight!!! Great 100 less accidents on its first year....... beacuse 100 less pilots who could nor afford it....

    :(
    We dont need new fancy computer equipment, we need
    to make more efficient what we already have.
    We need for airplanes, what Robinson just did for helicopters
    Instead of adding fancy equipement NASA should invest
    in making current equipment more efficient and cheap!
    Most GA airplanes are over 20 years old!!!
    The radios are around 5-15 years old on average in a GA airplane, the VOR navigation dates from the second world war!.......

    We dont need to add toys to this, we need to fix what we already have.

  7. And then it all went "POOF" by Old+Telco+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Ever been flying a plane at night with lots of nifty glass-cockpit crap in it, little moving-map displays with color weather radar overlays that show your airplane inching around the nasty thunderstorm and then rejoining your route at the cost of 43.657 seconds? Ever feel like the master of your universe as you transit a Class B cluster of megaports while eyeballing the informational overlay showing fuel flow, range, GS, TC and the like, as ATC soothes you with occasional handoffs and the odd heading change?

    Ever have it all go black as pitch in a heartbeat, with you fumbling for your flashlight, and half an antiquated partial panel, a stopwatch, a wad of Jepp charts and a merrily bouncing mag compass between you and destiny?

    What saved you then, brave airman, as your synthetic vision system "tunnel in the sky" caressed you with its blank black silence?

  8. Re:Already Available, and Affordable by vmaxxxed · · Score: 2, Interesting


    You have a point there.

    At least price-wise, I can see that, after adding up what you pay for all the normal instruments in a regular GA airplane, probably its about the same.

    But, at the same time you hit on one problem.
    -Reliability

    If the vacuum quits, you know you have the turn coordinator, a completely separate piece of equipment, with a completely different power source.

    And, if you need to replace it, you only replace that part, not the whole panel!

    I have seen LCD's die on me. What will you do then? IS that going to last 10 > 20 years like
    a good old VOR indicator, or a gyro compass?
    I dont think so. That is not theri market

    There are several practical reasons, not only economical, why this could not be a full gauge replacement,and, anyway, I dont think this is the intent of the designers.

    Im just talking for all the GA pilots not flying jet powered Gulfstreams, or almost supersonic Citation Jets, that can not afford this, and have been forgotten by the FAA who only cares about airliners, or looking good infront of Congress.


    Since we are not paying a million or two for a gulfstream, or own an airline , the only way we can see this improve is with goverment money.

    Dont get me wrong, this technology is great. But, last year there were ZERO deaths in US ariline flights. They have the latest in flight directors, MFDs, radio alts.... thats great.

    What is being done for the almost 1000 GA pilots who died that year because of using ancient vaccum designs or >10 year old VORS, just because it take years for the FAA and the industry in general to do something about us ?

    My 2 cents, and thats it, cause flying leaves me with not much else .... but I love it :)