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Shrimp-Based Bandages Save Lives

Roland Piquepaille writes "Unstoppable bleeding is one of the leading causes of death on battlefields. But now, soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have a way to reduce bleeding when they're wounded. In "War Bandages," ScienCentral News writes that these new bandages contain chitosan molecules, extracted from shrimp shells. These positively charged chitosan molecules attract negatively charged red blood cells, stopping hemorrhage in one to five minutes. As said one of the co-founders of the Oregon-based company behind these bandages, "You can have a hole in your heart and 60 seconds later it's sealed." The Food and Drug Administration approved these bandages for human usage, but today they are exclusively sold to the Army. With a $90 price tag for a 4-inch-by-4-inch single bandage, would you buy them anyway? This overview contains more details and references. It also shows you how the red blood cells are attracted by the chitosan molecules."

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  1. Of courese I'd buy one... by zulux · · Score: 4, Insightful



    When you need one to stop a gusher - $90 is going to seem cheap when somebody's life is on the line.

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  2. Well depends. How long do they last by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I can carry one in my wallet for a couple of years then yeah sure. Most people in "civilian" accidents don't bleed to death from open wounds so the chances of being or finding someone else in a accident where this is usefull is remote but then again I also always carry a condom.

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  3. my favourite Judd Hirsch quote by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

    from the movie Independence Day:

    "You don't actually think they spend twenty thousand dollars on a hammer, thirty thousand dollars on a toilet seat, do you?"

  4. Rural Ambulance Services by TykeClone · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I volunteer as a driver on our rural ambulance service. The closest hospital is about 30 miles away - about a half hour or less driving time.

    In the event of a vehicle or farm accident, I'd like to see these bandages available to our EMT's - all they need to do is to buy about 30 minutes.

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  5. Re:Let's get a dumb question out of the way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not really. Shrimp are farmable, very easily (think sea monkeys...). Might as well ask "will cows be hunted to extinction".

  6. Sure, get one for the car by JavaRob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a feeling that if I had a wound that would *require* this kind of bandage, I'd be incapacitated enough that I wouldn't be able to get to the glove box.

    On the other hand, I might be able to save someone else's life. We've all heard about the staggering numbers of deaths in auto accidents... I wonder if a percentage of those might not have been fatalities if the EMT's (or other drivers) had materials like this.

    It might also be worth it for people with blood clotting problems, who (without proper care) could bleed to death from a bad papercut. Does it work for them?

  7. "hole in your heart"?! by nusratt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "You can have a hole in your heart and 60 seconds later it's sealed."

    ummm...how large a hole can you have for SIXTY SECONDS without already being doomed to eventual death from shock or brain hypoxia or circulatory collapse?

    and how long does it take from the time the hole is created until the time it's realized, exposed, and then treated?

    1. Re:"hole in your heart"?! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ummm...how large a hole can you have for SIXTY SECONDS without already being doomed to eventual death from shock or brain hypoxia or circulatory collapse?

      and how long does it take from the time the hole is created until the time it's realized, exposed, and then treated?


      A .223 round is pretty small. If it passed through cleanly there would certainly be rapid blood loss, but maybe not enough to kill you in 60 seconds.

      Of course you bring up the essential point - how is a medic in the field supposed to get the bandage on the heart in the first place? Stick a straw down the bullet wound and pour in the powder? You probabably don't want this stuff winding up in your brain.

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  8. Just the Army? by devphil · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Weird. I knew a former Marine who talked about using the shrimp-based bandages for wounds. They've been atound for a while, that's for sure.

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  9. Welcome to 10,000 BC by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nowadays, we have this thing called "farming". It's rather good at solving the problem of over-hunting (over-fishing, over-picking, etc).

  10. Would I buy one? Depends on how long they last. by topher1kenobe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I could buy one for $90 and throw it in my med kit and leave it there for 4 years, you bet. If it expires after 2 months, no way.

    I have sterile bandages in there that are years old, and are still good because I take care of them.

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  11. Re:Let's get a dumb question out of the way... by Acy+James+Stapp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Of course, we could fish to extinction the fish needed to feed all of those shrimp.

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  12. Shrimp and Potatoes by displague · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Potatoes stop bleeding too. I thought I originally read this on Slashdot, but Google is not being helpful. Actually, it's like dried potatoe flakes or powder. But the story is the same, it near instantly stops bleeding.

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  13. Shellfish! by AllMightyPaul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will it work if you're allergic to shell-fish? That's what I want to know.

    1. Re:Shellfish! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Will it work if you're allergic to shell-fish? That's what I want to know.

      The clotting should work. Let's hope there's an epi stick in the first aid kit too and you can not die both ways.

      I wonder if the low blood pressure associated with anaphylaxis could be beneficial in the case of a gushing wound.

      If it's refined enough you'd probably not have to worry in the first place.

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  14. What about allergies? by Myself · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In folks who're allergic to shellfish, which part is it that triggers the reaction? Peanut and shellfish allergies never seem to be mild, and while this is a wonderful lifesaving development, I wonder whether other methods should be kept handy in case this particular one would kill a particular person.

    1. Re:What about allergies? by bluGill · · Score: 2, Informative

      Every emergency room I know of would prefer to treat an allergic reaction to treating complete loss of blood. Allergies are serious, but the odds of surviving even the worst cases when you are in the hospital are much higher than the odds of surviving loss of most of your blood.

    2. Re:What about allergies? by Nutria · · Score: 2, Informative

      In folks who're allergic to shellfish, which part is it that triggers the reaction? Peanut and shellfish allergies never seem to be mild, and while this is a wonderful lifesaving development, I wonder whether other methods should be kept handy in case this particular one would kill a particular person.

      Allergic reactions get triggered by eating shellfish, not touching them...

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  15. Re:Handy and effective way to stop bleeding by agent+dero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This kind of leads to a couple ethical questions:

    How much is a possible life worth?

    How much is the creator/founder/supplier entitled to for creating something that _can_ save a life?

    IMHO, i'll shell out $90 in a situation that would be tremendously helped by a situation like this.

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  16. I wouldn't, but... by Undefined+Parameter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I probably wouldn't buy one at ninety bucks a bandage, but I would think that hemophiliacs (and their parents) would definitely consider such a cost... well, inconsiderable.

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  17. Re:Handy and effective way to stop bleeding by Nutria · · Score: 5, Informative
    Correction: the said co-owner does not have a heart (otherwise he would not be making such a killing with those exclusive overpriced bandages) and thus his little chest-stabbing PR stunt resulted in only a minor self-inflicted cutaneous injury.

    You self-righteous, brainless shit.



    John Holcomb has been working on this for 12 years, with no big company that has other income streams to fund the research.



    Also, do you know how diffucult it is to create these bandages? Neither do I. Maybe it costs $70/bandage to specially refine the chemical and create the bandage. After all, if it were easy, it wouldn't have taken 12 years.



    Besides, the Pentagon probably thinks that a $90 silver bullet to reduce the mortality rate by 10% is an incredible bargain. And these bandages will reduce the amount of work that doctors will have to do to repair wounds, meaning that they can treat more personnel, and less blood loss means that there will be less systemic damage, and less need for blood transfusions, people will heal quicker, etc, etc, etc...

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  18. One reason why they're not on sale to the public by kgp · · Score: 4, Informative

    The rection is very exothermic (generates a lot of heat). In fact enough heat to cause serious burns (an extra complication). The trick for using the version issued to the army in powedered form is to be trained to use just enough powder.

    Would anyone have them at home. Sure. Imagine a deep glass wound to the neck, arm or leg without immediate treatment (pressure to the wound or this material) you could be dead in minutes. I think this will find it's way into better First Aid boxes. EMT and other first responders (including the police) could use it now.

  19. Re:Boy by JavaRob · · Score: 2, Funny

    Gash yourself, then pour salt and cayenne on the wound, and get back to us, ok?

    Ah... I'd be glad to, but that wouldn't follow the scientific process, now would it? We'll need to set up a double-blind study. Any volunteers?

  20. These would be life savers if everyone had one. by digital+photo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Imagine a car accident, you drive by and see someone clutching their wrist/arm/etc and is applying pressure to stop the bleeding.

    If one of the these patch bandaids can stop hemorraging type bleeding in 60 seconds, that would be a life saver. It means the difference between making it to the hospital or dying on the way.

    The same would apply to shootings where the wound itself didn't damage anything life theatening, but did result in a badly bleeding wound. A patch bandaid capable of stopping the bleeding would be a godsend.

    As another pointed out, seafood allergies would suck.

    These can also be of great assistance in helping people who have "accidentally" cut their wrists or otherwise rendered a life threatening wound where death by bloodloss may result.

    At $90 a pop for a 4"x4" bandage isn't cheap, but that is relative. If you just suffered an accident with a sharp piece of metal and are bleeding badly, $90 to stop the bleeding and save your life will be a bargain.

    I would imagine that for smaller wounds, the bandage can be cut into smaller sections.

    If they can drop the price to $10 per 4"x4" bandage and sell them in packs of 4-5, you would be able to offer them in local stores, to ERT/EMT, and to schools.

    This kind of medical discovery is what we need more of. Ways to save lives.

  21. Futurama Reference... by Libertarian_Geek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Horray! Ziodberg's popular again!

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