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Ring-Tone Barons? Japanese Record Companies Raided

PuceBaboon writes " The Asahi Shimbun is reporting that officers from the Fair Trade Commission raided several major record companies in Japan, including Sony Music Entertainment, Toshiba EMI and Avex, on suspicion of creating a monopoly for the purpose of maintaining artificially high prices on... telephone ring-tone tunes."

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  1. Ringtones?? by newdles · · Score: 5, Funny

    You have to BUY ringtones? What's this world coming to? Next thing you know, MS will charge extra for ding dongs it adds to messenger :O

  2. mp3 as ringtone by MoZ-RedShirt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or why not just let a phone play a 10 second or so clip of an MP3? The decoder chips are cheap enough now.

    The newest Nokia phones are able to use midi files or mp3 files as ringtones. You can load them via infrared, cable or bluetooth connection and thus don't have to pay a single cent for your new ringtones.

    RedShirt

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  3. In Capitalistic America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Record company raids you!

  4. Download for free by CaptainZapp · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Applicable for Nokia phones, but may apply for other brands too.

    You can always save the $, Euro, YEN for ringtones by finding a free midi site (annoying banners warning) and convert them yourself with the included Nokia software (sorry, Windoze only).

    In addition I get the bonus of not knowing anybody else to have Led Zeppelins "Kashmir" as a ringtone.

    Works for me and makes me laugh every time when I see those fantastic 4EUR99 offers...

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  5. Re:vocals? by yo303 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I don't see why the record companies don't have control if the vocals aren't included.

    Because they are recording companies.

    (And to clarify, it's not just the vocals -- it's the particular recording, usually including vocals.)

    The record company owns the recording, not the composition. To sell the record, the record company must licence the song from the composer (who is often not the performer in question.)

    As an example, let's take the song "Remember (Walking in the Sand)", originally performed by the Shangri-Las, and written by George Morton. It was since covered by Patsy Cline, the Beach Boys and Aerosmith, among others.

    If you wanted the Aerosmith version as your ringtone, you'd have to licence it from whoever owns that Aerosmith recording, and from whoever now owns the rights to the composition... but not from the Shangri-Las' right-holders, because you're not using their recording.

    If you just wanted the song itself as a midi file in your phone, you don't have to pay anything to Aerosmith's label, nor to the Beach Boys' label, nor to the Shangri-Las' label -- because you're not using those recordings. You just have to pay whoever now owns George Morton's composition rights (provided the copyright hasn't lapsed) because that's all you're using.

    yo.

  6. Why is the mobile market so expensive? by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Informative
    "or are almost all telephone ringtones *overpriced*"
    Mobile services are way overpriced. At least in Europe. The reason? Mobiles allow the people who run the network to make deals with people who deliver contents.

    Because mobiles have traditionally had very limited software capabilities, they have been able to charge outrageous sums for mobile services. Instead of browsing the web you'll be browsing some specialized service with content created specifically for mobiles.

    And the problem isn't just that the mobile operators and content owners do everything they can to keep it that way.

    And even worse, people like Danish mobile analyst John Strand from Strand Consult are attacking anything which threatens this mobile hegemony by operators and content owners.

    John Strand has been known to use his influence to try to make sure that today's situation with crappy and overpriced services will remain. He basically tells the press that "yeah, these people don't understand the mobile market and won't survive for long" if it threatens today's hegemony.

    One specific example is the rise of software on mobiles that can browse the web instead of the customer being force fed what the operator wants him to. John Strand is using his influence to claim that companies that offer such solutions will never survive because they operate outside the "mobile food chain".

    John Strand and his ilk are basically trying to maintain today's situation because overpriced mobile services are a good thing to them. It's a mobile market they know, and they are making good money by just being "consultants".

    So yeah, mobile services suck and are over priced. Software like real web browsers is arriving to give the customer an actual choice and make it cheaper, but on the other hand, corrupt "analysts" like John Strand are doing everything they can to stop this more customer friendly development, and really fight to keep today's system with customer lock-in and over priced services.

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  7. Jeez... by MarkMcLeod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Full song on iTunes: $.99

    30 second clip of "similar" song made with high pitched tones: $3+

    Getting raped by your cellular provider: Priceless.