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GlobeTrotter: Mandrake-based 40GB Linux Mobile Desktop

joestar writes "Mandrakesoft & LaCie have just launched "GlobeTrotter", a ultra-compact 40 GB bootable USB hard-drive pre-loaded with Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official. It may be plugged to any available PC with a USB 1 or USB 2 port, automatically recognizes the host-PC's hardware, and then is ready to use. Multiple uses can be imagined, from the office/internet workstation to the multimedia jukebox! The concept is quite similar to Mandrakemove, excepted that it's way more powerful than a USB-key based system! And for $219 it's a credible alternative to a laptop."

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  1. Alternative to a laptop? by Kell_pt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not really an alternative to a laptop imho - check its weight. Always recall that transportable doesn't make it portable. ;)

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    1. Re:Alternative to a laptop? by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It's not really an alternative to a laptop imho

      Maybe because it's not a laptop. It's a HD with Mandrake preloaded onto it. You plug it into a desktop so you can run Mandrake anywhere.

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    2. Re:Alternative to a laptop? by Arathrael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I suppose it's a credible alternative to a laptop if the only thing you use the laptop for is working at both home and work.

      Just have a machine without hard drive at each location and take the usb drive.

      Otherwise, yes, you could hardly rely on there being available host hardware without password-protected BIOS setups available wherever you want to use it. :-)

  2. sounds like an easy way... by ryane67 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to hijack data off a system that you dont have the password to log into yourself..

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    1. Re:sounds like an easy way... by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yea, I love supposedly 'password protected' XP/2000 user login directories are wide open for the viewing in linux. Thanks knoppix!

    2. Re:sounds like an easy way... by Proc6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Enable file system encryption on NTFS and try again.

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    3. Re:sounds like an easy way... by Nyder · · Score: 4, Informative

      drawfour says "Yes, you can reset the BIOS password, but it requires more than hitting the power button and plugging something in."

      yes, all you need is a command prompt (msdos boot disk) then type:
      DEBUG

      and hit Enter. You'll see a dash (-) at the DEBUG prompt. Now type:

      o 70 2e

      which will show as -o 70 2e at the DEBUG prompt. Hit Enter. Then type:

      o 71 ff

      and hit Enter. Finally type:

      Q

      that is one of the ways, there are a few others. don't work in all situations, but will work in most i've had to deal with.

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  3. Costly? by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After reading the article, I wonder what exactly makes it so special? Perhaps the convenience of the entire setup, but for 40 gig, you would expect a lower price. I can get a USB enclosure for a hard drive for $30.00 here or perhaps elsewhere for even less. A 200 gig HD from tigerdirect.com is $89.99. Don't get me wrong, I am really excited to see Linux systems set up like this, but the price kind of threw me off.

    1. Re:Costly? by precogpunk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are paying more because Mandrake needs to:
      1. Secure a steady supply of hardware to meet demand.
      2. Install and configure the OS on the hardware.
      3. Write a manual.
      4. Provide tech support for the product.
      5. Market the new product.
      6. Profit.

    2. Re:Costly? by aclarke · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I couldn't see right away from their web site, but I'm 99% positive they're using a 2.5" laptop drive. So a better comparison would be something like a 40GB Drive for $100

      Just so you know, every 3.5" drive enclosure I've ever seen requires a separate power supply. 3.5" disks require too much power to be reliably run from USB or firewire. This is one reason why a 2.5" drive solution is much better for portability.

      So, take $130 of hardware and add $90 for my time to put the drive in the enclosure, install Mandrake, etc. and it doesn't seem like such a bad deal to me.

  4. speed ??? by selderrr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With USB2, its feasible, but I surely wouldn't boot off a USB1 device unless realy no other options are available. Or the machine has so much ram, I barely acces my swap.

  5. Viable alternative to a laptop? by gexen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First off, I think it's great that a distribution is doing this. If you're a Linux evangelist, I would imagine a Live-CD may not do everything you want to do.

    But, the main point of this post is to ask how is this a viable alternative to a laptop? I always defined viable alternative as a product that offers a similiar product set designed to do the same job. How exactly is a hard drive loaded with Linux comprable to a laptop?

  6. You must be smoking a viable alternative to crack by untaken_name · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is no way that an external hard drive is equivalent to a laptop. This thing doesn't have a keyboard or screen. What are you going to do on the plane, show it off to the other passengers? Viable alternative. mutter.

  7. Re:Just not practical. by ryanjensen · · Score: 5, Informative

    RTFA, you and everyone else who said this ... the drive also comes with a mini-CD that contains a bootloader and a recovery program. If your computer can boot off CD (much more than 5%) it can boot the to the LaCie drive.

  8. Been there, done that, give you the tee shirt? by astrojetsonjr · · Score: 5, Informative
    40 GB laptop disk $84 - Bascon Computers
    USB 2 case (with keyboard power cable for those PC's with lame USB ports) $32 - Bascon Computers
    Knoppix $0 - the web
    Portability Priceless

    Fits in your pocket, you can carry your system all the time. Most places are starting to care about USB drives so check before you plug in.

    The nice thing is you always have your code, your custom toolchain, music, etc. Like you never left home.

    (OK, so you have to set up Knoppix and that will take an hour or two, far less than it takes you to build that XP box from scratch) - ob Windows vs. Linux dig

  9. Re:"For computers that don't support booting from by interiot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It doesn't completely defeat the purpose:
    • If the CD only needs to boot, load USB drivers, and hand off control to the USB drive, it can be shrunk to a business-card CD. I'm guessing that a business-card CD + 2.5" hard drive isn't any less convenient than one full-size CD.
    • With 40GB available, you can have 58 times as many programs available as you can with a 700MB CD.
    • Hard drives can be written to as well as read from, so you can use it to carry documents and MP3s along with you, and don't have to stream these over the network like you'd have to with Knoppix.
    In short, it's waaaaay more functional than a bootable CD.
  10. Gentoo should do this too.. by Junta · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would be simple to use whatever system you come across as a linux system. Simply plug in the drive, boot, bootstrap, emerge system, compile a kernel, build some choice packages, wait a few days and voila, instant gentoo box.

    -Note: this is a joke.

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  11. Re:You must be smoking a viable alternative to cra by jhoger · · Score: 4, Informative

    Myself, I gave up on modern "portables" some time back. Battery life sucks so bad, they always need to be plugged in. They heat up like a mo-fo. The keyboards invariably suck. And their hard drives are serious underperformers.

    Since I need to plug in anyway, as a contractor, when I need to go on-site, I take my Shuttle XPC in a little cart, with a real buckling-spring UNICOMP keyboard. It's got 2GB of RAM and a fast CPU, can run VMWare handily so I can launch Winders from my Debian system as necessary.

    I just use the monitor at whatever desk the client decides to assign me for the day.

    If I carry a laptop any more it's a Tandy Model 102, and I just use it for editing text. Now that thing is portable... 20 hours on 4 AA batteries, passes the drop test, and has an excellent keyboard. I transfer files to/from via the serial port.

    We're working on a memory/flash storage expansion for it at http://bitchin100.com/remem_project.html

    -- John.

  12. What this thing needs by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It needs hardware encryption so that the disk is useless without the right pass-phrase, and optionally a hardware token like a separate USB pendrive (or compact flash, whatever) with a really big one-time pad on it. And I mean real encryption like AES or Blowfish, or at least triple-DES. Not something that Joe-Bob and his little beowulf cluster can crack in a week or too.

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  13. This is cool. Naysayers be damnned! by LibrePensador · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Damn, it is hard to please the slashdot crowd. It's too expensive, how is this different from knoppix?

    Well, I find it very inexpensive and convenient. Yes, I could probably do this myself, but I happen to like Mandrake's distribution and this gives me the chance to support my favorite distribution in an all-in-one package that is easy to use.

    If you think you can do it reliably and more cheaply than Mandrake, please by all means give them some competition.

    But I, for one, love Mandrake. It is the fastest distribution of the latest round I tried (Suse 9.1, Fedora 2, Slackware 10) and it is very stable. I also happen to like Suse 9.1 quite a bit for certain uses, but overall lean much more strongly towards Mandrake, but I digress.

    I love this idea. You will be able to take your desktop with you everywhere without needing to use Knoppix. Knoppix is very nice, but this gives you another way to reach portability and will be faster since it runs off a HD, rather than off the CD. You can take music, documents with you and have your fully personalized desktop available anywhere where a computer is available.

    This is more convenient than a laptop in some regards as it doesn't need to be recharged and is less conspicuous and thus less likely to be stolen.

    And I don't know about you, but I can find a computer I can plug into just about anywhere, whether it's at a friend's or a relative's house, the library...

    I think Mandrake is working very hard and they are making incredible progress. I have tested their 10.1 Beta 2 and it is already very, very good, although I would caution new users to wait for the *Official* release, not community, and definitely not RCs.

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  14. Re:"For computers that don't support booting from by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I've never seen "USB" as an option in the "A, C, CDROM"

    You young whipper-snappers with your "CD-ROM boot" and your "network boot" are all a bunch of sissies and don't know it! Why, back in my day you were given one option: floppy drive! Hard drives were too expensive and required a team of oxen to get the durned things spinning, so everything was on a truckload of floppy disks.

    And when I say floppy, I mean floppy! Those things were flopper than you were when you walked in on your grandmother and I this morning! Have you ever tried putting a pancake into a disk drive?

    Them rich snots down the street, they had one of them new-fangled "double density" drive. Managed to get PC-DOS down to less than half a dozen disks (unless you included GW-BASIC!). Us, we were stuck with single sided, single density. Do you have any idea how many of those it takes to fit just one Library of Congress on? Station wagons full!

    "Network boot..." bah! We had a network! It didn't just look like a garden hose, it was a garden hose! We'd roll one of our floppy disks up and shove it in and blow it on through to our friends in order to share our music files!

    You ever hear Asia being played by your internal speaker, boy?