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Microsoft faces Monopoly Lawsuit (again)

james_in_denver writes "Forbes magazine is reporting that Microsoft will be sued in California for predatory pricing. This lawsuit appears to differ from earlier challenges to MicroSoft's marketplace dominance by entertaining the possibility of a Class-Action lawsuit. This would allow individual users/licensee's to participate in the lawsuit. A notable quote from the full text states: "It's anticompetitive, it's predatory, and it denies consumers, and in this case taxpayers, the benefits of innovation that a free marketplace should provide,""

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  1. Allow individual users/licensee's to participate by scotay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Translation: Lawyers get rich, users/licensees get worthless vouchers.

  2. Predatory Pricing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh come on, really, can you really say that just because their OS costs more than most pieces of hardware predatory?

  3. Different how? by subrosas · · Score: 5, Informative

    "This lawsuit appears to differ from earlier challenges to MicroSoft's marketplace dominance by entertaining the possibility of a Class-Action lawsuit." Um, RTFA? At least 16 other states have had similar lawsuits, including the recent settlement here in Minnesota.

  4. Doesn't cut it anymore. by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux is free to anyone who wants it. All the apps are free. How can anyone claim Microsoft is a monopoly that unfairly prices its products? This argument doesn't work anymore. It's a free market. Don't like MS? There's a free alternative. Stop whining.

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  5. Looks like Califoria is look to steal some MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Same thing over and over again. State sues MS. MS challenges. MS Looses (the judges work for the state, right?)

    MS "pays" restitution in free liscences. MS is even more entretched.

    It's a dance called the:

    "The PR Microsoft Litigation CircleJerk shuffle".

    At the end of the dance the stains are a bit hard to get out, but the public gets it up the ass everytime.

  6. This doesn't make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Predatory pricing" is traditionally a term that refers to when a merchant tries to sell a product at a price that is vastly less than what the competitors are selling their product for.

    In this regard, if one wants to go after so-called predators (and I'm not one of them) then the government should go after Red Hat and Suse and Mandrake, as they sell far more product in a box and at a far less price than Microsoft.

    Once you go down the slope of the madness that is government interfence in the economy, all things are possible, mostly bad.

  7. Government's Place? by Famatra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I dont recall anyone ever saying that government has no place in a free market economy. Without government there would be anarchy, and that seems to be bad for business ;).

    Government does many things including provide for enforcement of contracts (legal system), provide pure public goods, ontop of busting up monopolies.

  8. Re:Californian Justice... by hype7 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Some people like to say that the USA is the home of pure capitalism. However, that's an oversimplification of how our system really functions. I'd rather call it capitalism with gutters on either side of the bowling lane so that when something starts to go off course in a bad way, the law kicks in and makes sure that the bad shot both fails to score, and also cannot go further off course so that it impacts the scores on other lanes.


    So that's how the RIAA and MPAA can bring all those lawsuits to bear on US citizens?

    The only reason there are gutters is for the businesses to dump the little guys when they're done with them. The politicians are standing shoulder to shoulder with the big corps over this, too - that's why US drug prices remain at the highest levels in the western world, and why laws like the DMCA and the INDUCE Act will continue to make their way onto the books.

    So long as politicians keep get big $$$ from big business, there's going to be a severe tilt towards serving business interests as opposed to human interests. I'm surprised there haven't been overtures to ban political donations from corporations - I think it would fix a lot of problems.

    -- james
  9. Re:Nerds have a hard time understanding caplitalis by Neduz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft creates more jobs in one month than you linux fags will do in a life time. Thank god our legal system is rational, microsoft will probably just have to pay a fine.

    Why does the opposite of Microsoft have to be Free software? A fair market situation would be if e.g. at least 3 different OSes for PC were sold and would have an equal market share.
    The fact that only a free os can compete with Windows proves how ill the software market is. A monoculture is always bad. Even for jobs. If there were real competitors to Microsoft, there would be more people employed. Have you ever questioned how many people lost their job because Microsoft ruined/bought their company?

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  10. Once again we've got Capitalism -vs- Free Market by ahfoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a very interesting language issue because so many conservative interests like to use the terms interchangeably in defense of Capitalism while they're really quite distinct and even incompatible.
    In fact, free market ideas are dangerous to Capitalism. While the US is a good example of an economy that relies heavily on Capitalism, capitalist economies existed long before the US and are considered to have started in 15th Century Venice. Capitalism, as I'm referring to it, is a system where equity markets such as a stock, bond and commodities exchanges where inverstors use their capital to invest in shares play a central role in the economy. Clearly, such equities markets are very important to the US economy, so it is fair to say the US economy is heavily reliant on Capitalism.
    But examples of a free market include ideas like international outsourcing. While globalization is clearly a good thing from a free market perspective, it is not necessarily a good thing for shareholders of American corporations or even for those corporations themselves. Taken to its logical conclusion, outsourcing could quickly gut a capitalist economy. So, what's good for free markets in general is not necessarily good for any particular instances of Capitalism such as the Dow or the NASDAQ.
    Let's look at another example of a free market activity that hurts rather than helps Capitalist enterprises --second-hand sales. Again it is easy to see that second-hand sales are clearly free market activities, but if it becomes too popular, it begins to erode sales of new items. So, the general idea of free markets and the rather specific instances of Capitalism are often at odds rather than being interchangeable synonyms.