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10Gbit to the Home by 2010

womby writes "Nihon Keizai Shinbun report (Japanese) that NTT, Fujitsu and the Japanese Government are forming a working group to develop internet technologies that will hopefully allow homes to receve 10 gigabit internet connections by 2010.
'The Japanese government (the Ministry of Public Management, Home Affairs, Post and Telecommunication) are going to start a development plan next year that will increase the speed of the internet in Japan to 100 times faster than the current 100MB fibre internet, with partner companies it is aiming for completion by 2010.' A complete Translation is here, if my blog gets beaten into the ground try the Coral Cache Link."

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  1. interested to see how this holds up by womby · · Score: 1, Interesting

    the blog itself is running on a small shuttle box and the internet connection is one of the 100Mbit fibre connections mentioned in the article.

    wordpress is supposed to scale ok, I have my fingers crossed.

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  2. RE: 10Gbit to the Home by 2010 by justforaday · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd be pleased just having 100Mbit to the home. By 2010 I might even have all my home machines upgraded to GigE...

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  3. Re:Uhh... by ron_ivi · · Score: 3, Interesting
    First, we need hard drives and system buses that can get the data moving at this speed.

    But you don't need consumer drives that fast. I suspect the plan (of the carriers) is to have your data on big storage arrays at your ISP - for better lock-in to your ISP.

    This bandwidth, if it's low latency, would make a thin/diskless client much more practical than it is today.

  4. Scary by Vilim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This has the potential to make the internet a worse place than it is today. Currently, a 56k or cable modem when it is a zombie in a 14 year olds bot army cannot do much damage alone. The "1337" 14 year old must accumulate a huge number before he can make any real difference.

    With 10 gigabit, the kiddie just has to get a few bots to cause a server to die, or if they are persitant enough to accumulate a huge amount of bots, they can do huge amounts of damage to the internet

    Barring the advent of far more massive media, who, besides universities and governments would really need a 10 gigabit internet connection anyways?

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    1. Re:Scary by general_re · · Score: 2, Interesting
      With 10 gigabit, the kiddie just has to get a few bots to cause a server to die, or if they are persitant enough to accumulate a huge amount of bots, they can do huge amounts of damage to the internet

      Well, wait a minute. You're assuming that institutions won't also see their bandwidth rise, but why assume that? If 10 Gb connections are going to be available and affordable to me, won't universities and businesses have access to commensurately larger pipes as well? If I can afford 10 Gb, what's to stop them from buying a hundred 10 Gb pipes and bonding them together? Granted, that only preserves the status quo rather than solving the problem once and for all, but at least it doesn't make things worse...

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  5. Multimedia, Video & Multiple Devices by Donny+Smith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hard Disks - you don't need HDD for video conferencing and such.

    Buses - if you have 10 devices (3 TVs, 2 PCs, 2 video phones, 4 security cameras, 2 PlayStation 5) in your home, it shouldn't be too hard to use up that bandwidth. Any particular device alone wouldn't need to be able to use up the bandwidth, but all together, they could.

    Just imagine how much bandwidth could be consumed by four kids playing virtual-reality games on the Internet...

  6. What it's really for by Animats · · Score: 2, Interesting
    We'll need this to support the distribution of pirated movies over "file-sharing" networks with inefficient protocols.

    "file-sharing" systems pumping around MP3 files are already using orders of magnitude more bandwidth than they should. The RIAA only generates a few gigabytes of new content per week, expressed as MP3 files. If it just went out on a netnews binary group, the bandwidth consumption would be trivial. No file would traverse any link more than once. No frantic inter-node polling.

    The consumer electronics industry could just buy out the music industry and throw all the content into the public domain. The entire music industry isn't that big; it's about the size of Compaq when HP acquired it. Content could be viewed as a loss leader for the hardware.

    Apple seems to be headed in that direction.

  7. How about the latency? by NoMercy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Though not a major factor in everyones lives, I'd personally like to see the latency dealt with as well, things may be getting faster but it seems latency is largely ignored, there's not much hope for global telecommuiting if they don't address the latency as well *mumbles about that 10ms lag on adsl lines*

  8. Re:Why? by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why... A beowulf cluster of this size

    Seriously though, if the next Playstation is going to rely on distributed computing this would be the thing that makes it a reality.

    Seriously, imagine p2p networks that spring up to and combine computing power to solve any math problem.

    We can all build nukes! Forcast weather for the whole planet!

    Imagine the cool "beowulf live" distributions that spring up - boot and enjoy holographic video (rendered on demand!)

    It's not the connection speed, it's the potential to combine computer power that makes me drool.

  9. Because by jackb_guppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    DRM does not work in the current setup.

    With that massive pipe, there is no need for local hard drive or other resource (tape/DVD) to hold information. It can all be on-demand.

    With that setup you only need to see what you want see when you need it. AND PAID for it on per-use bases.

    We are getting to what VNC was originally designed for... Central Processing centers with only remote display devices.

    So nice plasam TV, with a keyboard, camera, mic and speakers (phone & music) attached. Add to it point at (touch) screen design and you have very the all propose enterantment and mind control device, that for $19.95 per month can spy on you.

  10. Re:I'll believe it by aldoman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, I disagree.

    With Standard Definition Movies (in XViD and DiVX formats), the filesizes are remaining at around 700-1.4GB (1-2CDs). Not only that, thanks to more faster CPUs, more compression can be done which means a lower bitrate is needed for the same quality.

    Not only that, home connection speeds have went from 512/768 to 2,3 and soon 4 and 5mbit/second.

    Some things are the same, but music and movies are just staying the same size (unless HDTV rips start coming, but that's a long way off as we currently have no way to transfer a HDTV rip to a TV without use of large HDDs etc) which is bad, bad news for the music and movie companies.

    For games, they have gone from 1-2CD in 2000, to 3-5 CD (or one DVD).

  11. right... by Altanar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe by 2010 I'll be able to get something other than a 56k connection... Cable and DSL isn't even remotely available here. You know it's bad when local paper celebrates the coming of dsl to a town that's 50 miles away.

  12. Re:Do the math by strider3700 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    actually I see this being a great thing for the MPAA. In reality it will still take a minute or two to get a complete DVD but thats fast enough for me. So all the studios have to do is take their entire collection of films and make the new iTunes for movies. I'd gladdly pay $2 per movie to download some of the really old obscure crap I tend to rent for 49 cents a week on wornout vhs these days.

    The only requirements I have is I must own the downloaded copy, and it must not be tied to a specific viewer.

    Now they may not be interested in releasing the newest movies that way and thats fine by me. I see most of them in theater anyways. Perhaps they could timeshift the new releases like they do to the PPV on TV, 6 weeks after the DVD release it's on PPV. I usually wait the 6 weeks since it's just much more convienent.

  13. Re:I'll believe it by tuxlove · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not only that, home connection speeds have went from 512/768 to 2,3 and soon 4 and 5mbit/second.

    I already get 4Mb at home, and 6Mb is offered in my area. In Japan, apparently 20-30Mbit is common. My colleages there get that speed, at least.

  14. Re:Uhh... by RicktheBrick · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree. If we went through the mega bit chips in the 90's(from 1 mega bit to 1 giga bit) we should be able to go from 1 giga bit to 1 tera bit in the first decade of the 2000's. One tera byte of system ram in the earlier 2010's should not be surprising.

  15. Let's think scientific research. by Vlion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OK.
    In a research project near my university, a professor wants to be able to store roughly 30 GB/s.
    He is sampling some states in the nervous system.
    O'course, he a bio prof, but that gives you some idea about scientific computation.

    Now, let's think video.
    Say in 10 years professional movie makers film in voxels, not pixels. That takes an incredible amount of storage.

    Or say gaming- instead of relying on mega-servers to handle your rpg, you can run a 256-player game from your home machine without blinking.

    I would wager only bus limitations prevent one from doing that with a modern 2 CPU system. :-)

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  16. Re:I'll believe it by HawkingMattress · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You know i had doom1 given to me on a few floppies, same thing for warcraft, or windows 3.1.
    And MSDOS fitted enterily on one 1.44 floppy, not so long ago...
    700 megs / 1.44 = 486,11. Yay, a recent os is about 400 times bigger than msdos something like 12 years ago...

  17. Re:Why? by burns210 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it will change the internet from a download-save-view to a streaming view as you download, but don't save internet. The speed could grossly outweight the development of harddrives. Also, the vast speed of streaming and bandwidth would make it worthless to save things that are just 1 time views...

    I imagine VOIP being completely used worldwide. I see radio streaming, in place of radio. I see video phones, as a standard use of audio-only. I see cable TV over IP.

    Cable TV over IP... That would be badass.