Gates Explains Longhorn Delay, Diet

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Gates Explains Longhorn Delay, Diet

Posted by timothy on Sunday August 29, 2004 @11:39PM from the trial-balloons-make-good-targets dept.

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft has set late 2006 as the deadline for shipping Longhorn, but to make that date, it had to delay the full implementation of WinFS, an ambitious file system geared at letting users search through all of their files at once. In this interview with Bill Gates, he provides a summary of why Microsoft decided to drop WinFS, saying: "WinFS, I'd be the first to say, is very ambitious. Nobody has ever brought together the world of documents, media and structured information in giving you one simple set of verbs that lets you richly find, move around and replicate those things." Meanwhile, MS Watch has published Longhorn head-honcho Jim Allchin's memo on why some Longhorn features had to be axed."

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new concept by mirko · 2004-08-29 23:41 · Score: 5, Funny

So, in his (apocryphous) diary, he mentioned being the inventor of product pre-announcement, now he's just invented the post-pre-announcement.
Way to go, Bill :)

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Via babelfish by dackroyd · 2004-08-29 23:46 · Score: 4, Funny

WinFS, I'd be the first to say, is very ambitious. Nobody has ever brought together the world of documents, media and structured information in giving you one simple set of verbs that lets you richly find, move around and replicate those things.

Translation:

We thought it was a good idea but no-one else has done an implementation that we can copy off, so we can't really figure out how to do it.

Can anyone explain exactly what will be in Longhorn, now that the new filesystem and graphics system is not going to be in it ?

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1. Re:Via babelfish by mr_z_beeblebrox · 2004-08-29 23:57 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Can anyone explain exactly what will be in Longhorn, now that the new filesystem and graphics system is not going to be in it ?
  
  All the great features of Windows 2003 plus the addition of a NEW logo and desktop theme!!!!
2. Re:Via babelfish by StevenHenderson · 2004-08-30 00:03 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Can anyone explain exactly what will be in Longhorn, now that the new filesystem and graphics system is not going to be in it ?
  
  Bugs.
3. Re:Via babelfish by inerte · 2004-08-30 00:48 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  hehehe, this guy's speech reminds me of this:
  
  A proven 32-bit cutting-edge state-of-the-art industrial-strength Y2K-compliant zero-administration plug-and-play industry-standard Java-enabled internet-ready multimedia professional personal-computer Operating System that is even newer and faster yet compatible, with a user-friendly object-oriented 3D graphical user interface, amazing inter-application communication and plug-in capability, an enhanced filesystem, full integration into Enterprise networks, an exclusive way to deploy distributed components, seamless network sharing of printers and files.
  
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Avalon's gone too by DrSkwid · 2004-08-29 23:47 · Score: 5, Funny

So that's bye bye new file system
bye bye new GUI
bye bye new API

wtf is left ?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/27/microsoft_ decouples_longhorn/

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1. Re:Avalon's gone too by Xpilot · 2004-08-30 00:00 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  bye bye new GUI
  bye bye new API
  
  Ah, the Longhorn version of American Pie. Come on, what's the next verse?
  
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2. Re:Avalon's gone too by BJH · 2004-08-30 00:47 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
  
  A long, long time ago,
  I can still remember
  How a release wouldn't take a while
  And I knew that if I had my chance
  That I'd do the upgrade dance
  And maybe I'd be happy for a while
  
  But XP made me shiver
  With every email it'd deliver
  A new worm for my inbox
  I couldn't take one more Win32.CTX
  
  I can't remember if I cried
  When I read about the delayed Longhorn
  But something touched me deep inside
  The day the upgrade cycle died
  
  *Chorus*
  So bye, bye my new GUI
  Pointed IE to WindowsUpdate but it was empty
  And them good old hackers were using Linux anyway
  Singing this will be the day Windows dies
  This will be the day Windows dies
3. Re:Avalon's gone too by BJH · 2004-08-30 00:49 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Did you get that new filesystem
  Do you have faith in the schedule
  If Mr Gates tells you so?
  Now, do you believe in release dates
  Will Longhorn raise your running costs
  And can it make your PC run real slow?
  
  Well, I know you're in love with it
  'Cause I saw you running the beta
  You sure had to spend a few bucks
  Man, I don't see any new features!
  
  I was a lowly Pentium user
  With a little hard drive and a tiny screen
  But I knew I was out of luck
  The day the upgrade cycle died
  
  I started singing
  
  *Chorus*
  So bye, bye my new GUI
  Pointed IE to WindowsUpdate but it was empty
  And them good old hackers were using Linux anyway
  Singing this will be the day Windows dies
  This will be the day Windows dies
  
  Now for ten years we've been running XP
  And losses get bigger on their balance sheet
  But that's not how it used to be
  When the Monkey Boy sang for developers
  In a suit he borrowed from a gorilla
  In a voice that went from high to low
  
  And while Bill Gates was looking on
  The USB driver crashed his poor PC
  The conference was adjourned
  No reviews were written
  
  And while Linus wrote a kernel and more
  The core team tried really hard
  And were given stock options up the wazoo
  The day the upgrade cycle died
  
  We were singing
  
  *Chorus*
  So bye, bye my new GUI
  Pointed IE to WindowsUpdate but it was empty
  And them good old hackers were using Linux anyway
  Singing this will be the day Windows dies
  This will be the day Windows dies
  
  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Mandatory post by Biotech9 · 2004-08-29 23:52 · Score: 4, Funny

Introducing Microsoft Longhorn Millenium edition!

Preorder now and recieve a copy of Duke Nukem Forever!
search pc by __aahlyu4518 · 2004-08-29 23:57 · Score: 4, Funny

imagine that... treating everything as files...

how inovative... ;-)
Re:Old bugs will bug you a long time... by Deusy · 2004-08-30 00:25 · Score: 5, Funny

"One problem with Konghorn..."

Oh dear Lord. Don't tell me the KDE team are reimplementing Longhorn.

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Free version of Monad by martinde · 2004-08-30 01:09 · Score: 4, Funny

> However, Monad is obviously a way that Microsoft is trying to catch-up with the powerful scripting ability of *nix shells.

I think MS just thought it would be funny to release something that would "have to be" called "Gonad" if it was copied and release in open source! (Hmmm, or maybe Gnunad?!)
more translation required by twitter · 2004-08-30 01:45 · Score: 3, Funny

"Allchin's unbiased memo" promises high quality, reliability, diagnostics, RAD and graphics tools, as well as developer excitement. That's quite a list.
Are they going to ship a Linux distro?

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Re:What about Meta-tags? by the_bard17 · 2004-08-30 02:19 · Score: 3, Funny

Wizard: "Do you know how old your document is?
Me:"Five minutes."
Wizard: "Do you know what program you use to edit it?"
Me: "Yeah. Vim."
Wizard: "I'm sorry. I don't recognize that program."
Me: Reboots into my Linux system and mkreiserfs' the Windows drive.