Secret Service Seeks Indymedia Logs
sunbird writes "The Justice Department has issued a subpoena seeking IP logs from Calyx, the ISP for nyc.indymedia.org, after individuals posted [1 | 2 | 3] the names, addresses, and phone numbers of some of the RNC delegates. The subpoena was issued as part of an ongoing investigation of voter intimidation. As reported earlier in this Slashdot article, the Justice Department tried this before. Calyx, represented by the ACLU, responded, claiming that '[t]he only intimidation taking place here is the Secret Service intimidating people who speak out against the government.' [Full text of the letter available here] Read more: Indymedia.org | NYT"
I don't give a damn what party McCain affiliates with, because he's not running for any office that I can vote for anyway. Both parties boil down to taking my money away and putting it into projects that I don't support, though, and both prez. candidates are unacceptable. And people wonder why voter turnout is so low...
Too bad that Dr. that was running with a seemingly good plan ended up yelling and being excited once. Said the media, "Wait, that guy doesn't seem to fit either party's agenda very well. Let's make it appear as if he's crazy!"
Sigh. At least I'm still free to choose the use of secondhand smoke as a means to slowly kill anyone who passes by me - if I want to. I hate incompetent bloated government.
Bullshit. The whole point is to spread lies and sow dissent. Only one of those lying bastards even served with Kerry, and he got a medal for his actions *under fire* in the same engagement that he now claims didn't involve any fire.
... 'I think the president has some strong arguments about some of the assets of most-favored-nation status for China,' Kerry said." (John Aloysius Farrell, "Kerry Breaks Party Ranks To Back China Trade Status," The Boston Globe, 6/15/91)
Wrong, I actually spent the time to email most of the vets, this is incorrect. Read this: Crews were trained as a unit, one officer and five enlisted at Coronado, CA. Boats did missions together in units. Therefore one boat would spend countless time on a mission with other boats. We went through training around Jan/Feb 1969.
If you don't know that the Vietnam war was plagued by atrocities by all sides, then you don't know a damn thing about it and have no place pretending that you do.
Again read what I wrote: I said he claimed those he served with committed those acts. The key is those he served with. Those people being the swift vets saying he is lying. Of course you know more than those who were there.
He went. He saw what a clusterfuck it was and he came home and spoke out against the big fucking lie that we all now know that that war was. So this demonstrates that he can learn and even change his mind when the evidence overwhelmingly demands it. And the right wing media calls this flip flopping.
Again, think please, if this is true then why now does he say how great he was for doing this? If I felt so strongly against something, I AM NOT going to then go and use my actions as a reason to vote for me. I would continue to speak out against this. P.S. He supposedly threw his medals away in protest; funny thing is those were not his medals.
Dude, if you don't know his people are neck deep in this you are dumber than a bag of rocks.
First don't change the subject I was talking exclusively about 527's. Second, calling me names is great evidence, keep it up.
When has he changed his mind over pressure? He has changed his mind based on evidence. Bush refuses to change his mind in the face of evidence.
You set yourself up for this:
FLIP...
Kerry 2004 announced Saturday: "I will work with Congress to lift the immigration ban on HIV-positive people that has prohibited the United States from hosting [an annual AIDS conference]."
FLOP...
February 1993, Boston Globe: "The US Senate dealt President Clinton his first legislative defeat yesterday, voting to write into law the Bush administration's policy prohibiting people infected with the AIDS virus from immigrating to the United States. The defeat came despite Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's spirited battle in defense of the president's commitment to lift the prohibition. The Senate voted, 76-23, to prevent people infected with the HIV virus, which causes AIDS, from immigrating, after defeating by a 56-42 vote an amendment by Kennedy that would have kept current federal policy in place for 90 days but left Clinton free to change it after that. Kennedy accused the Republicans of both racism and partisan mean- spiritedness.
Voting for the prohibition were Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut; Sen. William S. Cohen, Republican of Maine; Sen. John F. Kerry; Sens. Judd Gregg and Robert C. Smith, Republicans of New Hampshire; Sen. John H. Chafee, Republican of Rhode Island; Sen. Claiborne Pell, Democrat of Rhode Island; and Sen. James M. Jeffords, Republican of Vermont.
FLIP...
In 1991, Kerry Supported Most-Favored Trade Status For China. "Sen. John Kerry said yesterday that he is breaking party ranks to support most-favored-nation trade status for China
FLOP...
In 2000, Kerry Voted In Favor Of Permanent Normal Trade Relations With China. (H.R. 4444, CQ Vote #251: Passed 83-15: R 46
"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" -Confucius