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Gnome 2.8 RC1 Released
FlipmodePlaya writes "Linux Today reports the first release candidate for Gnome 2.8 has been released. A look at the new stuff can be found here. Notably, the possible inclusion of Evolution, and some networking goodies. My opinion: the GUI changes look too much like Windows/Internet Explorer for my tastes; I guess it's not just KDE."
GNOME 2.8 Release Candidate 1 Announced :00 UTC (1 Talkback[s]) (1740 reads)
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Release Candidate 1 marks the start of our Hard Code Freeze, on the way towards the final GNOME 2.8 release in a couple of weeks. The final lap! Let's just hope we're not dragged off the track at the last minute by a strangely dressed Irishman. Even though it almost sounds like fun... At last, without further ado, THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING!
platform: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/platform/2.7/2.7.9
tar.gz: 45M total
tar.bz2: 31M total
desktop: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/desktop/2.7/2.7.92
tar.gz: 146M total
tar.bz2: 103M total
bindings: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/bindings/2.7/2.7.9
tar.gz: 13M total
tar.bz2: 8.1M total
Notes about the new MIME system
As of GNOME 2.7.4, the old MIME system was replaced with a new shared specification found on freedesktop.org. There are a couple comments to go along with this:
* In order the to see any applications available, they must be registered with the MIME system. This can be done by getting the latest verion of desktop-file-utils and running:
update-desktop-database $PREFIX/applications
jhbuild in CVS has been modified to build this, and we expect applications to do this on install automatically in the future.
* The new user interface is modeled after the proposal at:
http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/files/mime/
The old File Types capplet has been removed in favor of a nautilus-only interface.
WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
This release is a snapshot of development code. Although it is buildable and usable, it is primarily intended for testing and hacking purposes. Like the Linux kernel, GNOME uses odd minor version numbers to indicate development status. Please check the 2.7 start page for more information:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.7/
Happy testing!
* The GNOME Release Team
since it even got its own story, why not use it?
try here.
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http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:http://davyd. angrygoats.net/gnome-2-8/
There ya go!
http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-8/
The screenshot link in the original post has been Slashdotted. Here's a mirror:
http://tuggy.home.sapo.pt/gnome/
(Here's hoping this doesn't get Slashdotted too quickly!)
There is a good reason why Evo is being included -- having the contact information centralized and standard in every Gnome installation means that other Gnome applications can use that data. This has implications for IM clients, browsers, file managers, and the interesting new fringe projects like Storage and Beagle and Dashboard. Without Evo's datastore built into Gnome, they would have to build an independant contact manager, and to me it makes sense to use the perfectly good one that Evolution already has.
And I'm not even an Evo user, I just understand the logic behind one of the reasons to include it. I'm sure there are other reasons too.
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Sorry, I forgot about the formatting requirements with Slashdot.
do you not see a striking resembalence to Windows/Internet Explorer, as I stated?
No. Hey, you asked -- I just answered. They *do* share a commonality with dialogs that are designed to be clear and consise -- some Windows dialogs meet this criteria but others certainly do not.
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I'm not going to make the mistake of getting in trouble for getting /.ed again. The maxclients on that server has been set down quite low, I've added a redirect to offload to offload to GNOME's webserver.
;)
If someone could update the story URL, that would be great
You don't have to use then GNOME/KDE window managers etc. to use their programs. I like GNOME mostly because the GNOME apps started without GNOME don't load the whole environment.
Argh. It ate my link :(
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This I meant. Yes, I preview from now on
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The component of Evolution that handles storage of calendar and address book data has been split off into a separate evolution-data-server module. This is the module that other programs use for calendar and address book integration.
It would also be possible for other mail clients to make use of e-d-s for address book storage, in which case they would also benefit from the desktop integration.
accesible? if you're using the provided one button mouse (and i know very few people who do), you just hold down one key, and you get your context menu. just because you don't understand how to do something doesn't mean its not accesible.
Don't worry - its just stigmata. Pass me a napkin and don't you dare tell my mother.
So that you all can avoid those google searches here are the links:
Storage Beagle
Dashboard
Not so fast! KDE 3.1 is old. So is GNOME 2.4. They're not terribly old, but still not current. If you going to make a decision for today, make it based on today's desktops.
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
I think button 1 does something, button 2 does something else is a lot more intuitive than button one does something if you press it for a short time and something else if you press it for a long time
Pet peeve: the "hold button for context menu" only works in the dock. How inconsitant. Doesn't work in the finder, doesn't work in safari.. doesn't work anywhere but the dock.
Works in Firefox :).
(Which just proves your point, of course. My point is that Firefox rules!)
Game... blouses.
Choose not to install it. Then, Gaim, and others, won't sync up with it. You just build it without a requirement for it. Choose whatever you want instaed.
Certainly with Kopete, and presumably with other multiple desktop aware IM programs, a new message notification can be made to appear briefly on all desktops; this can be configured on a per-contact basis.
Thus, when my close friends IM me, I get a prompt no matter what virtual desktop I'm on. When it's IM spam, or a stranger, I don't get prodded.
I appear to have a blog. Odd.
You mean like the Cervisia plugin for Konqueror?
That's a fair match for what you want- I use it now and again and find it pretty usable.
David
What are you talking about? HAL and DBUS are so new they squeak. They aren't 100% done even on Linux. Are you suggesting that the GNOME guys should concentrate on porting their stuff to BSD while their stuff is still half-finished?
HAL and DBUS are freedesktop.org standards, not specific to Linux. There is no reason why they shouldn't run just fine on BSD when they are done. They aren't done even on Linux yet.
So if you wanted to slam GNOME for not being portable, well, forget it.
I don't know anyone with Xerox Star experience, so I first saw this convention on the Mac. Like many conventions, the reason seems to have been lost somewhere along the way.
The double click is a shorthand way of doing a 'select' then 'open'. This first click selects what you want to interact with, (program, folder, etc.) and then in either Mac or Windows, you go to the pull down menu and choose open/new/run, or whatever the default action is. The second click is just a quick way to launch that default action.
Thank goodness MS does copy Mac now and then. Old guys like me who remember early versions Windows (I think up to v.3.0), will remember an odd system of cut copy and paste commands with the insert, delete, shift and control keys that few could keep straight. They got tired of the complaints and switched to the Mac system of X, C and V where C was copy and the V was like the editors markup to insert something where the 'arrow' was. It was of course arbitrary too, but most people with early GUI experience had used a Mac. Back then, the MS(PC) folks were mostly pretty militant command line (DOS) users until they started to be seduced by the GUI side around Windows 3.1
KDE, definitely (my KDE desktops have PDF files without ".pdf" at the end of the file name, and when I double-click on them the PDF reader starts up).
GNOME, possibly (I don't have a GNOME desktop I use much).
Mac OS pre-X, probably.
Mac OS X - not as far as I can tell. It's pretty much file extension-based.
Actually it's not the anti-aliasing that's bad, it's just the fonts. You can get better ones from LucasFonts: http://www.lucasfonts.com (TheSansMono Office is what you're after)
if you dont have that much money, you can just steal the fonts from a windows or OSX system.
Virtual desktops are somewhat overrated too. What happens if I want to be notified of an incoming IM, and I have sound disabled, while working in another desktop?
Oh - you mean badly implemented virtual desktops? Yes, those tend to suck. Interestingly that's mostly what you get for virtual desktops in windows (if you download the addon) - it does the basics, but has none of the finesse.
A sensible virtual desktop system allows sticky notificaton windows. Cunning systems manage to understand which notifications to put on the current desk, and which to leave with the window.
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Virtual desktops are somewhat overrated too. What happens if I want to be notified of an incoming IM, and I have sound disabled, while working in another desktop? I don't want to cost myself time flipping back and forth between the two in order to check.
I am notified of a new IM message via my gnome taskbar (there is a notification applet). I have become so comfortable using virtual desktops that if I ever find myself on some windows machine somewhere, i feel claustrophobic.
It will release with GNOME 2.8 on the 15th of September. It's now a GNOME module.
Oh for christs sake ... get the hell over it. We're speaking a language that was "ripped off" from german with lots of ripoffs from french, and linguists are finding out that all that might be a "ripoff" of sanskrit.
NO. ONE. CARES. Who invented it first, that is. And besides, I'm looking at all these gnome screenshots and am just marvelling at how you can be so smug about ripping off -- at least MS and Apple create their own style of dialogs, whereas every last detail in GNOME appears to be ripped out of Windows, from the file association to freakin progress dialogs while copying files. I'm waiting for the flying folders next.
Really. I could go into the whole postmodernism rant about the uselessness of originality, but all you really need is statistical samples in terms of informal polling to realize that again, no one cares. Certainly the people doing actual work on desktop environments clearly realize that.