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First Portable Media Centers Hit Store Shelves

An anonymous reader writes "After months of speculation and hype, the first Portable Media Center based on Microsoft's 'Windows Mobile software for Portable Media Centers' has finally hit store shelves. The Zen Portable Media Center, from Creative Labs, is now available at Best Buy and Fry's Electronics, priced under $500. That money basically buys a 3.8-inch color LCD screen, ultra-fast USB 2.0 port to transfer video, music, and digital photos from your PC, and an internal 20 GB hard drive."

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  1. Hmm... by robslimo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What manner of DRM has been built in?

    1. Re:Hmm... by Noehre · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How exactly does a question get modded 'Insightful'?

  2. Re:I have one, I'm impressed. by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What dissapoints me is that it only holds 20B. Larger models are definitely needed. 20GB will fit my music collection just fine, but when I start putting movies on it I'm going to need a bit more. Hell, there are people who buy 80GB players _just_ for music.

  3. Hmmm by Auckerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I honestly don't understand the reasoning behind these products. These are marketed and designed for use from the point of view people WANT to carry movies and photos around with them. Sucessful portable devices don't get in the way when they are not being AND are so simple to intereact with that one doesn't think about using them.

    These look like little more than toys for people who buy things because they are new. Novelty, nothing less, especially at that price, useability, and size.

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  4. more formats by Coneasfast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would have preferred something that would support more formats, such as xvid, ogg vorbis, etc.

    divx would be nice too, but there would be a licensing issue.

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  5. Re:When you buy this product... by McNally · · Score: 3, Insightful
    > > Unlike Apple's iPod, on which DRM is an optional consequence, Microsoft requires that you re-encode all video using DRM-encumbered technology.

    That would be really interesting, if it were true. Jackass.

    I actually own one of these things, and I can say 100% that you don't HAVE to re-encode your music to a DRM enabled format.

    Look, I don't know whether the original poster's claim is true or not, but..

    If you read what he's actually written, as opposed to what you assumed he wrote, you'll see his comment is specifically about video, whereas your reply mentions only audio. In short, you're discrediting a claim that he didn't make and calling him a jackass to boot.

    Calm down, take a deep breath, and read the whole sentence, mmmmkay?
  6. Ugh! It runs Windows! by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Insightful
    All right, all right, I know, of course it does...consider the source. But it's so overkill for a device like this (not to mention that unnecessary complexity introduces bug situations and security vulnerabilities). Look at the iPod. Did Apple port a stripped down OS X for it, or even a Darwin framework? No, of course not. It's an entertainment device, so it gets its own custom OS that fits just right. It's the same philosophy that Palm has with its handhelds -- don't overload it with junk, just provide what you need and no more.

    Microsoft always wants to extend Windows even into areas where it does not belong. A handheld running Windows? What on earth for? Now this too? No thanks. Give me a Palm, give me an iPod, give me a simple tool that works well and elegantly.

  7. Re:I have one, I'm impressed. by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know, I imagine the market is at least as big as the market for the Gameboy, and that's done alright.

  8. How much does the license cost? by foniksonik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My question here is how much of that price tag reflects the license tax to Microsoft? The hardware can't cost more than $150 by itself even at retail prices... even the LCD doesn't justify it. The software itself also doesn't justify the price... maybe another $100 for that so.... IMHO the license is half or more of the purchase price there. Surely the market can come up with a better or comperable offering for much less...I'm not buyin' it, figuratively or literally.

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  9. Huge Problem - No Tuner by BRock97 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Here's my beef; you will need an external PC to get any sort of video what so ever.

    I would have thought it would be as simple as:
    • Hook up device to cable
    • Schedule recording
    • Watch
    Instead, you have to:
    • Hook up your computer to cable
    • Go to your PC and schedule a show
    • Once it is done, have the software crunch the video to be transfered to the device
    • Hook up the device to the computer
    • Transfer the video over to the device
    • Watch
    How much more would it have cost to include a tuner with the unit?! Based on a post above, the unit can do video compression. So, until that happens, I am not too interested in the device as there are too many hurdles to jump to get out the door.
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  10. Re:Ugh! It runs Windows! by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Microsoft always wants to extend Windows even into areas where it does not belong."

    Yet when ./ posts about of Linux on a wristwatch et al people tend to root and cheer. Personally, I agree with your sentiment. A large scale general purpose OS can only consume more than it's share of scarce resources on a micro-device.
    However, in the future as computational power and memory resources grow ever smaller, the amount of bloat for the OS may matter less. For all we know, we'll see sixth generation "portable media centers" capable of playing DoomIII of course the display will look like crap on the holographic emitter and controlling the gameplay with hand gestures will be a chore, I'm sure it will be a hit for the hardcore game enthusiest ;)

  11. Re:Can't wait for Apple's by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My cousin has a powerbook and he hooks it up to the tv all the time, so I'm assuming the powerbook can do the same. Anyone can verify?

    Powerbooks have S-Video ports built in. A short cable is included that turns the S-Video into an RCA port.

  12. Re:I have one, I'm impressed. by LinuxHam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You do realize that there's absolutely no way you'll get through 80GB of music OR video on a single battery charge?

    You do realize that people don't load each day's music selection into their iPods as part of their morning rituals, don't you? Why do you think you have to watch/listen to your entire collection in a single charge?? Plug it in when you get home at night, unplug and take it with you in the morning. Listen to whatever subset of your collection you want during the day.

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