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I-Neighbors, Not just another social network

neoatbay writes "Globeandmail has a story on I-Neighbors.org, a social networking site based on geography, rather than affinity. Unlike other websites that allow global, national, or city-wide communication, I-Neighbors links members of a single neighborhood, defined by the people that create them. It is created by a team led by Pro. Keith Hampton at MIT. Anyone in this neighborhood, and play badminton?"

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  1. What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I wanted to interact with people that were geographically near me, I'd just hit the community center/park/mall. Sounds like just another way for people to stay shut up in their homes.

  2. Member defined Neighbourhoods? by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How defined are the neighbourhoods? For instance in America you could probably have city-wide hoods and it have a decent member size. But in Australia lots of cities aren't going to have any members but 1 or 2 people. What do they do? Can they have a state-wide hood? If not it isn't going to be popular in places such as Perth (one of Australia's 8 largest cities).

    Can hoods be redefined? For instance you might have a state-wide hood, but then as it becomes popular in that state you might want to break it down into smaller hoods? Is that sort of flexibility allowed? If not I can't see this being popular.

    This idea relies upon it having lots of people to get lots of people. But that's the problem, how do you get lots of people in the first place? By making it so large hoods can be created that can later be broken down into smaller hoods. Otherwise I don't see this being popular at all.

    1. Re:Member defined Neighbourhoods? by xkenny13 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How defined are the neighbourhoods? For instance in America you could probably have city-wide hoods and it have a decent member size. But in Australia lots of cities aren't going to have any members but 1 or 2 people. What do they do? Can they have a state-wide hood?

      Like phone book, mapping and even dating websites, I imagine you could limit your search to a distance radius from where you are located.

      This idea relies upon it having lots of people to get lots of people. But that's the problem, how do you get lots of people in the first place?

      Oh yeah? I've a question about this chicken and this egg...

      Simple answer: If you build it, they will come.

      By making it so large hoods can be created that can later be broken down into smaller hoods. Otherwise I don't see this being popular at all.

      At a minimum, you are entering a zip code (this is a US Postal code). Anyone living in my zip code isn't going to be all that far away.

    2. Re:Member defined Neighbourhoods? by SimplyCosmic · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I was wondering about the problem of neighborhood size myself.

      The "New Neighborhood Guidelines" list the following suggestions for any new neighborhood creation:
      • A real, geographic neighborhood.
      • Smaller than a city or town. Even a well-known name for a section of a city may be too large.
      • An area of fewer than 500 households, or a single apartment complex.

      The problem for me is that on most other sites that attempt to create a social network, be it Friendster, Livejournal, whatever, I've seen at most ten other people from the same 17,503 person, 6,933 household, 6.7 square miles of small-town suburbia.

      Now, this site would be great for larger cities where more people are packed closer to each other, but what about those of us who will be lucky to see just-barely double-digits online in our entire zip-code? Should we still be trying for a small-neighborhood area, or just move on to the larger city-scale?
  3. I have a better idea. by Viceice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Having a web based service requires that people sign up. Most people would be reluctant to, maybe because of laziness, maybe because of indifference.

    If you want to get more people involved, how about getting community funded Internet? Start a community association, then raise funds to put in a reasonable pipe and a few 802.11g router/ APs and provide the service FOC to members of the community.

    The only cavet would be that all users will have to see a community page as home page on first load and the DHCP lease expires every 12 hours.

    That way the community is more involved, as it provides an incentive for members of the community to participate.

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    Sometimes I wish I was a plumber, then I'd know how to deal with other people's shit.
  4. alpha software - don't waste your time by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just spent *my time* enterting data for my neighborhood only to be confronted with error messages.

    Even though it told me there was an "error" on the creation of my village, it was created anyway, however I am not recognized as the founder.

    Upon attempting to join my neighborhood I was then confronted with more error messages.

    Please - don't waste your time like I did. This is alpha software, and that needs to be noted conspicuously.

    This level of unprofessionalism is unacceptable.

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    Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
    1. Re:alpha software - don't waste your time by randyest · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Fine? Try these:

      Select a calendar week view.

      You get: Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING in F:\ineighbors\calendar\weekview.php on line 6

      "F:" -- running on IIS. That explains a lot.

      Click a date to add an event.

      You've clicked the date you want already -- but what's that? Add an event gives you some lovely drop-downs without defaulting to the day you clicked: Date: [Month] [Day]

      Sign up for an account. Fill in all the form fields. Choose username "randy". Submit. Aren't you thrilled that you get to go "back" in "your browser" to an empty set of fields and fill them in all over again while you guess another, probably used, name? Want suggested available similar names? Not here. Sorry.

      I could go on. Seriously. But the point is the grandparent is right -- this is sloppy code and a painful user interface. It fail's to deliver what most orkut/friendster users would consider the minimum functionality.

      Which means it will be wildly successful ;)

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      everything in moderation
  5. Gainesville Fl. Slashdot Meetup. by Chatmag · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I thought Slashdot Meetup was already doing basically the same thing.

    How about more people around Gainesville/North Florida sign up so we can get together.

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    Pete Carr Owner Chatmag.com
  6. Re:Communities on Orkut? by randyest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not more than a zip-code structured Orkut community system. Or at least not much more. Maybe less in some ways.

    I tried it. I even registered my "neighborhood" since none existed in my zip code (or presumably near, since none were offerered.)

    It's faster than orkut/friendster/etc. but no faster than these services were when they started (i.e, before they got slammed with more load than they anticipated or were prepared to pay for.) We'll see how snappy those pages are in a few months.

    The UI is pretty good and intuitive, but there are some annoyances. For example, when I registered I filled out some 12 fields of info including user name and submitted. Of course, my username was already in use, but rather than present the otherwise-ok-filled-in form and let me change the username, or offer similar alternatives, it made me go "back" in my browser and re-enter everything into the emptied fields. That happened twice (I saved the info the 2nd time in anticipation, but it's still unnecessarily unfriendly.)

    Now that I'm in I seem to have control over a bit more than the competition websites offer. I have a profile where I can "share info about [my]self", a directory of users (me), an event calendar (nothing happening), photo albums (all empty,) matches (others in my community, of which there are currently 0,) reviews (nada,) polls (I plan to create a poll to surrender my neighbors' land to me, vote alone, and win, bwahaha), see who's online now (and thus not initiate my plan to claim their land for my own, since they're probably home,) email everyone in my neighborhood in one fell swoop (local spammer heaven!) or arrange/join a carpool.

    All of which sounds really neat, if not entirely original and a bit milquetoast (hey -- no "C.A." a la craigslist?) Or at least it would be if there were anyone else registered in the area.

    Which brings me to my final question -- how much do these ads cost?

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    everything in moderation
  7. Granularity problems in Canada by Arrgh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They subdivide Canada into provinces and then FSAs (Forward Sortation Areas, otherwise known as the first three characters of your postal code) before letting you drill down to the neighbourhood level. Unfortunately, this particular way they've chosen to break down the geographic hierarchy is oversimplified and basically unworkable, at least for Canada.

    My neighbourhood (Mount Pleasant, in the East Side of Vancouver, BC) doesn't follow neat FSA boundaries. The hierarchy should be a little fuzzier, like Country -> State/Prov -> Region -> City -> Neighbourhood, and the "city" part should probably be optional, because there are neighbourhoods that cross civic boundaries. My friend who lives four blocks east and ten blocks south is most definitely in the same neighbourhood, but he lives in a different FSA.

  8. A couple ways by FanaticalDesperado · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here are a couple of ways that I have used to meet my neighbors in the past.

    1) When you see someone new moving in, ask if they need help. If they do need help, then you've made a new friend. If they don't need help, introduce yourself anyway. Just say something like "Well, my name is xxxx and I live in apartment number yyyy. If there is anything you need, just come and ask." Your neighbor feels welcomed and you don't actually have to carry any boxes. I have offered this service quite a few times and have never had anyone say that they needed help moving stuff. But, I have made several friends this way.

    2) Invite some of your friends over to play board games or watch a football game. Make/order some food and pick up some beer. When you see your neighbors a couple days before your party, introduce yourself. Say "Hi, we've never been formally introduced. I'm xxxx and I live in apartment number yyyy. I'm having some friends over tomorrow for some board games. Maybe you and your husband/wife would like to stop by."

    3) This one may not work for a lot of you, due to a lack of hurricanes in most places. During hurricane Charlie I met some of my neighbors because we were all sitting out on the front porch, getting drunk, and watching the storm.

    Could i-neighbors help break the ice in my building?

    In your situation, I would skip i-neighbors and go straight to an invitation to a party. If you are planning on having a labor day party with your friends, it won't cost you anything to invite your neghbors. I wouldn't plan on it wth just your neighbors though. People often have plans for holiday weekends and won't be able to go.

    The bottom line is that you often have to make the first step. If you've never been the person to break the ice, then it can be a little intimidating. You just have to bite the bullet and do it.

  9. Power: Scary by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I seem to be the first person to join I-Neighbors from this neighborhood. As such, I'm the "founder": my description of the neighborhood and its boundaries is official, and changes can't be made without my permission. What if I go mad with power?

  10. Face Book is same for schools by datawar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Face Book is a social network for people in the same college or university. You can fill out classes you're taking, and then see all the people who are also taking it, as well as fill out where you live, etc. Very popular with a lot of the schools that it supports (listing is on the home page).