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Half-Life 2 Preloading from Steam: Part 2

BrainsVolpe writes "For those of us on Steam, we can continue our 'preloading'of Half-Life 2. This time around we'll be downloading 'the majority of the audio of Half-Life 2 in encrypted form.' Does this mean we'll be getting HL2 before September 30th? Only Valve knows for sure... sorta."

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  1. Ask Slashdot: How to re-start? by richie2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got the prompt to pre-load before, denied it to let the server load subside a bit and now I can't get it to ask me again. Now what?

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    1. Re:Ask Slashdot: How to re-start? by aweraw · · Score: 4, Informative

      You should be able to right click on the Half Life 2 item in your games menu, and select 'pre-loading status'. Then you should be able to resume from there.

      You really should have done it first oportunity you got. Me? I got the story before it went live on slashdot and therefore beat the rush. yay for subscription... but, now you'll have to contend with the hoards of people who rush to open steam after seeing this

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    2. Re:Ask Slashdot: How to re-start? by DarkZero · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You really should have done it first oportunity you got. Me? I got the story before it went live on slashdot and therefore beat the rush. yay for subscription... but, now you'll have to contend with the hoards of people who rush to open steam after seeing this

      This is a Slashdot Games article, not a frontpage Slashdot article. The only people that will see it are the ones that specifically go to games.slashdot.org or the people that have Slashdot Games in their newsbox on the side of Slashdot. Therefore, no rush has been or will be created by this article.

      Just because there are good reasons to subscribe doesn't mean that every reason is a good reason.

    3. Re:Ask Slashdot: How to re-start? by jannesha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...But you have until at least Sept. 30, so, really, no one has to rush at all. That's the whole point of the 'preload,' right?

    4. Re:Ask Slashdot: How to re-start? by Baikala · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wich was the default setting back when all this "diferent secctions" madness begun.

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  2. It is newsworthy by tod_miller · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is cool that you can preload unreleased media in encrypted form, I like how they are doing this.

    A bad joke would be that you preloaded thier source code a few months ago, but lets not go there.

    I can't wait for a doom3 demo, let alone a half life 2 demo.

    I am holding my breath for a Duke Nukem Forever (that is so true it isn't even funny)

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  3. Re:and the news is? by krymsin01 · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, it'd only be news if you were downloading the mod and you couldn't use it until next year...

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  4. Re:and the news is? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok, so if you can download something but not use it right away it's "news" worthy. He! 3DReleams. You should release a single file for Duke4 every week. (Encrypted ofcourse)

  5. Re:It is newsworthy NOT by imr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would be newsworthy if it was the news that describe the new business model of valve with steam, but it has been done a long time ago.
    Or it would be newsworthy if it was the news that talks about the protocol behind steam, or the news that talk about some problem/success related to steam, or the people behind steam, or the community accepting/rejecting steam, or something new about half life2/cs/modding. But none of that.

    It would be almost void of any interrest it it was the news that announce that the preloading of hl2 has started.
    But no, this is the news that say that part2 of the download of people that are preloading hl2 has started.

  6. Re:I'm sorry by blacksway · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, your not right.

    The downloading is free.

    You only have to pay to play the game, once its been released.

  7. Re:I'm sorry by nukem1999 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It costs exactly nothing to preload. When the game is officially released, you pay Valve/VU (I think VU is their publisher anywayws) the same amount of money as you would for a box (blame the publishing contract), only you get it the second it's available instead of worrying about what store will have it when.

  8. Digital transfer is the best way by ricotest · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really like this (legal) digital form of selling games. The pre-loading makes it as instant as a game box, but Valve can't really go out of stock. Makes it easier for lazy people like me who aren't pre-ordering HL2 from their local game shop.

  9. Re:I'm sorry by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, yeah, but you won't get it on a nice permanent medium (read CD\DVD) and not nice printed manual or box.

    So you pay the same for less, but you get it earlier.

  10. Re:It is newsworthy NOT by atomicdragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the current Slashdot quote has some relevance: "Dibble's First Law of Sociology: Some do, some don't."

    Some people have an interest in this stuff, others don't. It is much easier to skip over an article that doesn't interest you than to find ones that do interest you, but are not posted.

    I tend to think that if a topic is really that uninteresting, why bother with spending the time to read or to reply to the posts.

  11. Re:I'm sorry by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 2, Informative

    And probably not even earlier that retail if you know the owner of a small game store who will be getting boxed versions a day or two before the oficial release date.

    If the official release date on steam and retail is the same, retail buyers may even have working copies before steam users... Assuming the boxed version doesn't require steam to authenticate before it'll start, otherwise Valve could hold back the retail buyers until the official date (and simultaneously royally piss off a lot of people.)

  12. Why all the bashing? by evilNomad · · Score: 2

    Why all you all bashing valve for this?! This has got to be the coolest way to get a game yet, you download it before its released, then pay and tada you got the game, no need to move out into the sunlight only to find the store hadn't gotten a copy yet, no need to install from crappy slow CD's which you have to change 4 times.. How can a geek NOT like this?!

    1. Re:Why all the bashing? by ctr2sprt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Easy enough. I do not trust Steam's "security" well enough to give it any sensitive information. Furthermore, I want a copy on a CD so that, if Steam breaks for whatever reason (which it likes to do), I can still install and play the game I bought.

      I have no objection to preloading per se. Well, it does use up my bandwidth, hard drive space, and CPU power for something which is going to remain useless for at least another month. But my main objections are security concerns and the lack of a CD image.

      Considering that I don't really gain anything from doing this, I'm not going to. I'll just go buy the game when it comes out, or a week later, or whatever. Any excitement I had for HL2 has been wiped out by Steam, the constant delays, and Valve's treatment of its paying customers. I think that's why you see all the bashing: people are pissed because they feel Valve are treating them like shit since they know we'll buy HL2 no matter what they do. It doesn't have anything to do with preloading, but anger will find expression where it will, not necessarily where it makes sense.

  13. Re:how well? by osvejda · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was a petition, but was completely ignored by Valve. Dedicated server should be available however.

  14. Re:Who gets the money? by KDR_11k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Valve gets more from Steam, that's the reason they made it.
    I'd prefer incentives like a lower price or an earlier release if they wanted to convince me to get the game without any physical stuff and using my own bandwidth (it'd probably take a few days of my bandwidth to get the game...). And there are some people who pay for their traffic, I bet they'd like some more incentives, too.

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  15. Next Round by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Valve starts to pre-load the Half-Life 2 Read Me file.

  16. Encryption? by Sp00nMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While this may be the future of games delivery, I don't quite understand the "protection" involved with this Steam system. I mean, once the entire game is on your system, how long would it take for a pirate group to crack the thing and let you play it without paying? How is this going to be any different that other methods of copy protection?

    1. Re:Encryption? by karmatic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's not encrypted (despite what they say), if you fire up GCFScape, you can open and extract all the files.

      The true protection lies in that they aren't preloading Half-Life 2.gcf (the filename is in the ClientRegistry.blob file), which contains the client dlls, nor are they releasing the maps yet.

    2. Re:Encryption? by Miaowara_Tomokato · · Score: 3, Informative

      This was covered fairly well in the discussion of part one of the article - they are not releasing the full product, they are releasing most of it. They are holding back a small chunk (or maybe even a large chunk) of crucial files and presumably a key for after payment has been received.

      If you do successfully hack it... you have a big pile of audio files and textures. Wheeee. Though I imagine some folks will try anyway.

  17. Re:Who gets the money? by doodzed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am buying it through steam not only because they get more money, but also because I trust steam will be around for a while. So when I am at my parents visiting, I can install steam..... I have all my valve games in a couple of hours. No digging to find reg code, find the cd, find the updates......

    With steam, all I need to have is my login.
    So far valve has done an ok job with steam considering they are the first people to do this.

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  18. Sorry... by Spuffin · · Score: 2, Informative
    Furthermore, I want a copy on a CD so that, if Steam breaks for whatever reason (which it likes to do), I can still install and play the game I bought.
    You can't play any of the games without logging into Steam, even if you have the CD. It should be noted, however, that if you login to steam and THEN go into offline mode, you can play the games you bought while remaining offline. If Steam was just a product distribution channel I wouldn't have a problem with it, but it tries to be everything at once. They tout Steam as being able to keep all of your games up to date yet they could just use it as an updater and not require you to use it in order to play your games. Sorry for the rant, I recently had to install steam in order to play TFC and I'm not too fond of the system.
    1. Re:Sorry... by Vengeance_au · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can't play any of the games without logging into Steam, even if you have the CD.

      That used to be the case, however Steam has been updated and you can now launch into offline mode, and chose if you want to go online or not. Great for lans, playing a home networked game, etc.