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Cold Fusion Back From The Dead

misterfusion writes "Looks like the IEEE is warming up to cold fusion with the latest story "Cold Fusion Back from the Dead". This has been a good year for this field with several leading science journals (Physics Today, MIT Technology Review, etc) contributing stories. Things are warming up and if science Research & Development funding can be stimulated with a positive DoE report (due soon), it might be an interesting rebirth."

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  1. I thought by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    slashdotters just loved sites endowed with Macromedia products, especially Shockwave & Flash.

  2. I love Elisabeth Shue by BoomerSooner · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    But The Saint was such a crappy movie. Note: The Cold Fusion Formula was on cards in her bra.

  3. Re:Almost had a heart attack! by bigman2003 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I use Cold Fusion every day. I like it a lot.

    Cold Fusion was supposed to drown under the ASP tidal wave. Then PHP was the obvious answer. Both products are free, and that was always cited as the reason that Cold Fusion would die.

    CF has reach a point of decline- which is okay- but it's not dead.

    I am willing to challenge anyone out there- if we are both given the same criteria for building a dynamic site- I'll use Cold Fusion, you can use PHP, ASP, JSP, whatever. I'll have my site done first. It will be secure, scalable, fast, and easily maintained. I've built dozens and dozens of sites that get moderate to heavy use (depending on your point of reference...) and Cold Fusion has never been an impediment, frequently it was the saving grace- allowing the project to get done on-time.

    People love to bash CF, because it is not the language du jour. It costs money- some people don't like that. It USED to be that a lot of crappy little projects were started in Cold Fusion, because it was easy- and any yokel could squeeze working code out of their ass- whether or not it was good. (That's how I started) But now most of the 'beginner' projects are done in ASP or PHP- because they are free, and can be created 'on the sly' without having to request $800-$1,500 of server software.

    Now I spend about 25% of my time converting someone's crap-ass (poorly done) PHP projects over to Cold Fusion once the people in charge find out that it's insecure, crash-prone and impossible to build on to. Strangely, the time has come that the Cold Fusion programmers are the ones with more experience (because it is not the language du jour, newbies are no longer jumping on the bandwagon) and the projects are put together in a more mature manner.

    Just as before, when Cold Fusion's biggest problem was that any jackass could use it- now I see the same thing happening to PHP. Jackasses covertly set it up on their small department webserver...and then I get paid to clean up their mess.

    Oh well- it's a job!

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  4. Re:Almost had a heart attack! by bigman2003 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Whoops...I assume you are talking about the site on my sig. (or maybe it was a general comment...)

    Yes- the site linked on my sig is a pretty basic piece of crap...but I like it that way. In no way does it reflect my super-uber hard-core coding skills that I use during my wonderful life at work. Or possibly it does...but from looking at my linked site, at least you know I'm not a very good designer.

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  5. Re:Almost had a heart attack! by skiflyer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Best logic ever.

    Use an older and less popular language because the developer you hire is less likely to be faking their skill.

    I don't know much of anything about Cold Fusion, when I started it was already on the decline and the price tag kept me from suggesting it to employers... but all I know is that the argument seems seriously flawed to me. Good PHP, good ASP, good JSP all are secure and scale just fine... and they're definitely easy to build on.

    Yes, a poorly coded project is a poor product, there's no question about that. But, and call me greedy, I want the best implementation written in the best technology for my problem, not the best implementation written in the language where I'm likely to find the best developer.

  6. Re:Almost had a heart attack! by bigman2003 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    My point was that CF is a good technology. The previous perception was that it was 'teh ghey' (as the above poster told us). This was due mainly to the number of crappy coders who were using it- not a reflection of the language/platform (whatever you want to call it) itself.

    It has been a good product for a long time- but the good parts were overshadowed by some of the crappy code people were putting together. Now it has less crappy code, and this is actually a good thing.

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  7. Re:reply to your sig by cybpunks3 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Political arguments should be settled within a political sphere.

    Once people resort to violence as a form of political speech the "point" they really don't deserve anything in return but a bullet in the head.

    It's shameful that Sadr can walk away from the mosque and enter politics after being responsible as the leader of the militia for all the deaths in these clashes. He's basically being treated like Ross Perot or something.

    It would be equally shameful for anyone to respond to terrorism by paying it back through attention to their chosen causes.

  8. Re:reply to your sig by juhaz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Once people resort to violence as a form of political speech the "point" they really don't deserve anything in return but a bullet in the head.

    I agree. When is GWB going to get his bullet? He wreaked revenge on two nations full of people who had nothing to do with it, and still hasn't managed to catch the actual guilty ones, why didn't he attack Saudi-Arabia? Oh, right, they weren't utterly defenceless.

    And all the previous US presidents for that matter, what are you still waiting for, when are the executions scheduled?

    Or perhaps you meant to say that it's "politics" if you command a big army to do your violence for you, it's "violence" or "terrorism" if you command a slightly smaller army with no high-tech but a shitload of desperation.

    It's shameful that Sadr can walk away from the mosque and enter politics after being responsible as the leader of the militia for all the deaths in these clashes.

    Yeah, man those muslim politicians, how fricking' utterly EVIL for them to defend their country from hostile invader, who now wants to steal their natural resources to fund their war. It's shameful that Bush can walk away from the war room and enter politics after being responsible as the leader of the military for all the deaths in these clashes.