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Copyright Office Suggests Changes To Induce Act

An anonymous reader writes "The US Copyright Office has proposed a new version of the Induce act. Under this new version it is apparently more difficult to bring charges against a company for inducement. Stories on the subject can be found at DRMBlog.com and at News.com."

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  1. Re:I should probably RTFA, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Main Entry: inducement
    Pronunciation: in-'düs-m&nt, -'dyüs-
    Function: noun
    1 : a motive or consideration that leads one to action or to additional or more effective actions
    2 : the act or process of inducing
    3 : matter presented by way of introduction or background to explain the principal allegations of a legal cause, plea, or defense
    synonym see MOTIVE

  2. Re:I should probably RTFA, but... by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Informative

    saying: "Download KazAAm for $5.00 and get access to all the copyrighted songs and movies you want!" is "inducement".

    saying: "KazAAm 2.0 is released, it is a P2P network designed for decentralized distribution of binary files" isn't.

    Sort of like selling a smartcard reader/writer is no crime, but advertising it as a tool to hack DirecTV is.

    Frankly, there are regulations governing other businesses that could be "shady". Most municipalities have pawn shops licensed and required to report every transaction, and it's illegal for them (or anyone else) to knowingly buy stolen goods.

    I think the goal here is to stop companies from profitting by promoting an illegal product. The law probably sucks though, because laws always go to far.

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  3. Insightful quote for those who don't RTFA... by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    by Will Rodger, director of public policy at the Computer and Communications Industry Association:

    "First it was the Hollings bill, then Induce, now the Copyright Office's bill. They look different, but they all revolve around the same thing: Giving content (providers) veto power over all new technology," Rodger said. "Who decided that holders of government-granted monopolies should determine the future of high tech? I don't remember reading that memo."

    Mirrors my feelings exactly. Just goes to show that companies (with convenient government puppets) will stop at nothing to establish monopoly over everything in their power.

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  4. Re:I should probably RTFA, but... by ipgeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    "inducement" as a legal term with a specific meaning in intellectual property law. It typically means that someone is doing something which would *not* strictly speaking be considered an infringement of a copyright or a patent. But what they are doing is "inducing" infringement, i.e. causing, encouraging, soliciting others to infringe.

    It's a concept that carries over from criminal law. It's sort of like, hey, she didn't commit the crime, but she did solicit others to do it for her, or something like that.

  5. Re:Still is too vague by jackb_guppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lending him the CD - would not be an inducement.

    The reason is you no longer have have the CD, he now has it. So only one copy. Fee for the copy has alredy been paid.

    If you maded a copy for him, or you lent him your to copy to make copy, then you would falling

  6. Re:Artists are NOT suffering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Excuse me, but for lack of a better way of putting it, you're colossally full of shit.

    As a member of the American Federation of Musicians (I am a freelance musician in Chicago) who has performed and recorded in royalty-pay situations, I can tell you that the artists are the FIRST to get the shaft.

    Yes, recording companies will tell you that royalty pay increases, but they never seem to release a breakdown of who gets that pay. I would venture to say that the majority of it does not go to artists like myself, who play on your film scores, your commercials, for whom this is a daily living, not the difference between the 1.2 million dollar or the 2.1 million dollar house.

    It's the media conglomerates that are the gorillas here. Royalty checks for those like myself are insulting at best. (This is why I have a day job in IT for now.)

    Please do not EVER confuse the RIAA and MPAA with actual ARTISTS.

  7. It's an infringement to lend a CD by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    If I had a CD and I lend it to my friend Fred.

    Actually, that would be unlawful in the United States even without an Induce Act. First sale (17 USC 109) doesn't apply to "rental, lease, or lending" of a CD.

    1. Re:It's an infringement to lend a CD by rwoodford · · Score: 2, Informative

      That loophole is probably filled by these phrases:

      "...for the purposes of direct or indirect commercial advantage ..."

      and

      "... by rental, lease, or lending, or by any other act or practice in the nature of rental, lease, or lending."

      Of course, IANAL.

    2. Re:It's an infringement to lend a CD by urulokion · · Score: 2, Informative
      First Sale Doctrine definately does apply in the case of my loaning MY CD to anyone else. A CD is just like a book. It is my property. I can fold, spindal, mutilate, playing, listen, frisbee, rip, time shift, and whatever else I think think up. The only rights the copyright own still keeps are the copy right and public performance.

      The statutes that you are citing apply to those activity for commercial gain. Notice there are movie rental stores all over the place in the US. But also note there is not a single place where you can rent any type of music media (CD, albums, singles, etc.) Well you can thank the RIAA and the record labels for getting that little nugget added into the law.

      Yet we can buy used music CDs. We thanks to the First Sale Doctrine. Thank goodness past courts did 'get it' when it comes to the copyright laws and the Constitution. My faith in current day courts have taken a lo of bruising.

  8. Re:Radical Rogue 9th Circuit Court! by White+Roses · · Score: 3, Informative
    The 9th circuit has always been the "rogue" circuit, making controversial decisions, and so on. As of 2 days ago (Sept. 1, 2004), *all* of the leadership posts for the 9th will be filled by women, from Justice O'Connor on down. How's that for rogue?

    From the State of the Circuit speech:

    • "Among some of the issues decided or, in one notable instance not decided, by the Supreme Court from the Ninth Circuit were: whether "under God" should remain in the Pledge of Allegiance as recited in California schools; whether the EPA needs to perform an environmental impact assessment before allowing Mexican trucks to operate in the U.S. under NAFTA; whether murderers sentenced to death by a judge, in violation of the Constitution's jury trial guarantee, can nonetheless be executed without re-sentencing; whether reasonable suspicion is needed for immigration agents to disassemble a car crossing the U.S.-Mexico border in order to search its gas tank for drugs. These are not easy issues."
    Indeed they aren't. Plus, the 9th has the most cases reviewed by the Supreme Court. They're rogues alright. But they make hard decisions, and generally are in favor of keeping the government the hell out of people's business.
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  9. Form letter from Orrin Hatch by cvd6262 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, I posted the email I sent to Hatch
    here. This was the 3rd time I've contacted him, and the other twimes, he (or whoever answers his mail) always personalized the response, addressing specific concerns and questions I had. This time, it seems to be nothing more than a form letter. Enjoy!

    ----Begin Letter----

    Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns about the Inducing Infringement of Copyrights Act of 2004 (S. 2560). I appreciate your comments and apologize for the delay in my response.

    The media have widely broadcast misconceptions about the intent and purpose of this bill, spreading concerns that S 2560 would outlaw Google, eBay, iPods, VCRs, TiVos, computers, CD burners, recordable DVDs, and a litany of other multi-use devices and Internet service providers. Let me be clear: This legislation was not designed to have any effect on these or future technological innovations, and I will work to ensure the final bill that is considered by Congress meets those criteria.

    S. 2560 has one goal - to crack down on those whose intended purpose and sole business model is to induce children, teenagers, and others to illegally download copyrighted music and movies for free. Without the illegal copying, these filesharing companies would be out of business, yet they amass huge profits while their customers are being forced to pay thousands of dollars in damages to the copyright owners. This bill is merely an attempt to close the safe-harbor loophole that these companies are using to knowingly lure their victims into this illegal activity and make them face legal liability for their actions.

    From the beginning, I have worked with the technology industries to craft S. 2560 so it targets only a small group of bad actors without affecting legitimate technology interests, and I will continue to work with them to ensure that we find the best way to achieve this goal. I certainly welcome any proposed improvements or alternatives to the approach taken in @. 2560.

    Again, thank you fro writing.

    Sincerely,
    [Sig]
    Orrin G. Hatch
    United States Senator

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    I'd rather have someone respond than be modded up.

  10. Rather than get rid of copyright entirely... by Illissius · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...why not just reduce its duration rather significantly? It has been shown to be a good incentive for innovation and creative, err, creation, so it's a good thing to have around, but the current situation where it lasts 100+ years cannot be (and is not) healthy. Bring it down to something like five years. That would seem like the best solution for everyone*: people get to share their music around completely freely and legally, artists get to make money off of their work (I don't have any statistics, but I'm fairly certain the vast majority of albums are sold within the first few years after release), and people suddenly have a whole lot less motivation to actively go around pirating -- there'd be plenty of legally free music around to satisfy just about anyone, and five years isn't too long to wait if there's something new they want but don't have the money for. People might even actually feel it's wrong to pirate, as (a) there's be no reason to, and (b) they wouldn't have the excuse of the current "just about anything is illegal, so who cares?" situation to justify it.

    A similar solution could also be applied to software patents (and maybe other patents, dunno), though with the speed the industry is moving something like two years would be more appropriate.

    * No, I did not include the RIAA in 'everyone', as while they technically are most unfortunately a part of it, statistically they are an entirely insignificant portion (there's like, a single to double digit number of executives, and maybe a few hundred employees?).

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  11. American flag by operagost · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is Slashdot planning on ever fixing this graphic? Obviously some third-grade dropout designed it. If you can't remember that there's red stripes on both the top and bottom, just remember that there are 13 stripes in all - you know, like the original 13 colonies?

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  12. Re:Radical Rogue 9th Circuit Court! by Twylite · · Score: 2, Informative

    The 9th Circuit ruling and the Betamax ruling set precedents. In the future other courts will refer to such precents and determine the extent to which they are applicable to new cases.

    Laws do not overturn rulings, but they regularly superceed precedents. A Betamax-equivalent case could be brought before a court which must now consider the fact that the environment under which the Betamax decision was taken (i.e. the laws applicable at the time) is different to the new environment (assuming the INDUCE act is passed), and that the Betamax precedent thus has limited effect.

    Always remember that the law trumps precedents. Courts must rule according to law. Judicial precedents serve to clarify the courts' interpretation of laws with respect to the conditions of a case. Only in cases with the same legal environment and factual background is a court bound by the precedents of other courts of an equal or higher level. At any time, a new law can be passed, even with the explicit intent of changing something that has previously been set by a judicial precedent (assumedly not to the satisfaction of the lawmakers).

    The constitution is a very special case. It provides for an avenue to challange a law directly. The court will not simply "bypass" the law when it rules - it either upholds it or rules that the law is unconstitutional and no longer valid.

    The only bases on which a court can rule in a manner inconsistent with a law is when the law is inconsistent with the constitution, or inconsistent with another law that the court chooses to observe in preference given the facts of the case. The judiciary interprets and adjudicates the rules created by the legislature; it has no power to create substantial law.

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  13. Re:Still is too vague by Sentry21 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Move to Canada. If I have a CD and lend it to my friend Fred, Fred can just rip the CD, make a copy, burn it, mix it, or whatever, and then give it back to me. As long as he is using his copy for his personal use, it's non-infringement.

    I find it amusing to no end that lending a CD could be considered an infringing act. Talk about absurd. I'd jump ship when the idea was considered.

    --Dan

  14. Re:Go big and ban it all. by Carnildo · · Score: 3, Informative

    My reading of the law is that it is targeted mainly against p2p networks that are used mainly for copyright infringement.

    Section 2A would cover any p2p application that automatically starts sharing files

    Section 2B would cover any p2p application that explicitly blocks suspected RIAA/MPAA peers

    Section 2C would cover any p2p application that includes incentives for sharing copyrighted work.

    Section 2D is an anti-grandfather clause: once this passes, if you're distributing a p2p application, it had better not be in violation of 2A, 2B, or 2C

    2E is a problem: even if you didn't make the p2p application for copyright infringement, if the users have decided to use it primarily for that purpose, you're guilty. I don't think this section will stand up in court, though.

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