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Nader Off Virginia Ballot

rwiedower writes "Nader's not on the ballot in Virginia. This means he's off the ballot in 16 states: AZ, CA, GA, ID, IN, IL, MD, MI, MO, OK, OR, PA, NC, SC, TX and VA. Is it time for Ralph to call it quits or does every vote count?"

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  1. Correction: Nader is on MI ballot by mooredav · · Score: 4, Informative

    "This means he's off the ballot in 16 states: AZ, CA, GA, ID, IN, IL, MD, MI, MO, OK, OR, PA, NC, SC, TX and VA."

    Nader failed to get on the Michigan ballot as a Reform candidate, but he succeeded as an independent.

    In 2000, Al Gore won 51.3% of the Michigan vote, Bush won 46.1%, and Nader won 2%.

  2. Re:Nader is just an attention whore by saden1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lol...I'm afraid the men who created the system of checks and balances didn't have anything to do with the abomination that is executive orders. Perhaps a little history on the subject is in order.

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  3. Re:Debates Format by RobertB-DC · · Score: 2, Informative

    Furthermore, why, when several of the "third party options" are on the ballots in all 50 states ... why are they not allowed to be in the "official" presidential debates?

    Just FYI, the first Presidential debate occurred this past weekend, between the Green Party candidate David Cobb and the Libertarians' Michael Badnarik. C-Span covered it -- there's still an audio/video link from their homepage.

    Not that the current duopoly will ever allow a third-party player in the debates again. But they're very handy on the local level. A friend of mine, Gary Page, ran as a Green against a shoe-in Republican, a placeholder Democrat, and a lost-in-the-clouds Libertarian. A local group (Realtors, I think) held a debate with all four. Though the Republican won, Gary's performance was so strong that the Democrats recruited him to run for Congress on their behalf this year.

    Keep an eye on the grass roots... they're coming up Green.

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  4. Re:Nader by Halfhand · · Score: 2, Informative

    I once thought that his heart was in the right place (I voted for him in 2000, in a state that was going for Gore, so don't call me a spoiler, I just want to see the Greens get their 5% for matching funds). But he has forsaken his morals and accepted signatures and $ from republicans that are helping him only to pull votes from Kerry. Soooo, this leads us to only believe one thing: Ralph is playing both sides and taking whatever he can get for Ralph, and not for any third party.

    For the Greens to become relevant they need to focus on local elections and stop deluding themselves that they should soot for contests at a national level. Burlington, VT slected a Socialist mayor that wasn't afraid to use capitalist means for bettering the city. There are progressive office holders all over that state and work in coalition with the Democrats and republicans for the betterment of the state. At a local level, party doesn't matter as much as reputation. With reputation, those local polititans can go on to national levels. That socialist mayor was Bernie Sanders, and is now a House Rep. The only true independent in Congress.