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Court Rules Against Unlicensed Sampling

An anonymous reader writes "Looks like there is no room at all for *any* sampling of "commercially protected" music. According to the open and future-looking judges, 'Get a license or do not sample. We do not see this as stifling creativity in any significant way.'" As the article puts it, this includes "minor, unrecognisable snippets of music." The decision was in the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals.

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  1. So the 8 second rule is gone? by Artifex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder what's going to happen to advertising, now.

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  2. "minor, unrecognisable snippets of music" banned? by iainl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe I've missed something obvious here. If its minor and unrecognisable, how will the copyright owner know its happened?

    Personally, I'm entirely behind the idea that if your sample is recognisable as someone else's song, then you've got to license it. If you can't tell, then you've obviously done something new with the sound and its fair game.

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  3. what of reinvention of 3-note riffs? by ghostlibrary · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article mentions the sampling of a 3-note riff. While "Name that Tune" does indicate such things are recognizable in the right context, I fear this means any musician who happens to use a short riff that happened to be in some obscure song will suffer too.

    I mean, if I do a guitar solo and it happens that 3 notes used several times sound like, oh, 'cat scratch fever' or 'smoke on the water' (same riff, by the way), am I violating ownership?

    And this will kill jazz... no more nods to other works in solos?

    Next up: any writer who uses 3 words in sequence that appeared in a previous writer's book is now violating that original author's intellectual property and will be sued.

    Worse, the article's 'stolen' 3-note riff is only 6 pieces of information-- 3 pitches plus 3 rhythms. They'd downsampled and changed the rhythm, so we're saying anything that is _similar_ to a known bit is at risk.

    While the article mentions they'd sampled, I worry that original recreation will be hit with the same law, i.e. getting a session guitarist to redo a riff in a different octave with different phrasing will be seen the same as 'sampling'.

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  4. Pirate by DustMagnet · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "If you cannot pirate the whole sound recording, can you 'lift' or 'sample' something less than the whole? Our answer to that question is in the negative," the court said.

    I can't believe a judge used the term pirate instead of copyright violation. I guess I should be glad he didn't call it stealing. I thought lawyers were much more careful with using the correct words, especially judges in rulings.

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  5. What's next? Collages? by ccady · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Come on people--this is f*cked up. Sampling a few seconds of somebody else's song, even if it *is* recognizable, and even if it is TheReallyHardPartThatTookYouTenYearsToMaster (c) is not a crime and should not require your permission.

    There is a slippery slope here. What are we going to make illegal next? Collages?

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