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NYT Promotes File Sharing

aisaac writes "An article in today's NYT comments intelligently on filesharing. Key points: downloading music is not illegal, peer-to-peer enables this useful and legal activity, and a list of good places to find good music online (including the American Memory Collection at the Library of Congress. The Induce Act is briefly mentioned without analysis, but the article does not mention that some of the Act's sponsors and cosponsors have expressed a willingness to consider ammendments to restrict the application of the Act. (This according to a letter I received from Senator Sarbanes.) Let's keep the pressure on!" A Congress call-in day is being organized.

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  1. They promote free music, not just filesharing! by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Within Epitonic's huge roster is at least a song or two from some major-label acts, among them the New York band Secret Machines, the Texas band Sparta and the English bands Radiohead and Spiritualized. But independent bands like Bright Eyes or Godspeed You Black Emperor are every bit as good.

    Whenever I see the word "intelligent" included in the summary of an article linked from Slashdot I cringe. This time I was absolutely shocked to see that the article was not only intelligent but insightful and informative. I hadn't been directed to Epitonic before but I am sure I will poke around there some more. I have become a big fan of "alternative" bands that have been making it to the radio scene as of late (Secret Machines, Velvet Revolver, and Modest Mouse to name a few). Modest Mouse allows the taping and distribution of their live performances and it's apparent that the Secret Machines don't have much of a problem with getting their sound out there. Nothing gets me more interested in purchasing tickets to see a show than when the bands distribute their music for free.

    The article mentions my all time favorite, FurthurNET, as a viable alternative to other P2P networks which harbor many files that probably shouldn't be there. FurthurNET is great when you are looking for something more "headsy" like DSO, Phish, or the Dead. You might have better luck looking for other stuff on torrent sites out there (like the now seemingly defunct sharingthegroove.org).

    Support the bands that support the free distribution of their music. It's already working!

  2. Downloading music itself is not illegal... by rd_syringe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but downloading copyrighted materials you don't have permission for that belong to someone else is. Let's not forget that a lot of the anti-copyright sentiment around here magically disappears whenever we have a GPL violation article.

    1. Re:Downloading music itself is not illegal... by Jameth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Let's not forget that a lot of the anti-copyright sentiment around here magically disappears whenever we have a GPL violation article."

      If you look closely, you'll see that most of the 'anti-copyright' sentiment around here is closer to '28 years only' copyright sentiment, dislike for RIAA tactics and their debatable legality, and dislike for the way that the United States tries to strongarm every nation in the world into abiding by the laws pushed through by American corporations.

      Funny how none of those issues even relates to GPL violations.

    2. Re:Downloading music itself is not illegal... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because for the RIAA, proving downloading is a lot harder than proving uploading. PRetty much the only way for the RIAA to prove downloading is to catch the user downloading hte file, and the best way to do that is offer the file themselves. Whoa, whole new can of worms and potentially grey legal areas.

      Catching uploaders is as easy as seeing what they are sharing and ensure its copyrighted material that the RIAA owns. Bingo, a nice lot of evidence that didnt take a lot of work.

      Downloading is illegal. Uploading is illegal. The ease of proof is the difference in lawsuits brought for these actions.

  3. Excellent by ravenspear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's nice to finally see a journalist who is at least moderately informed on this issue. More coverage like this will be needed though to bring greater understanding to the majority public. The Hatch'esque philosophy of absolute IP supremacy over legitimate use of technology will do great harm to innovation if it's adopted by the masses. The xxAA orgs would like nothing better than this, but ultimately the consumer would lose.

  4. We need more articles like this. by Maestro4k · · Score: 5, Insightful
    We really need to see more of these type of articles, currently the RIAA/MPAA have managed to drown out the voices of those touting the legal uses of P2P applications. The more people who know about the legit uses, the more of an outcry there'll be. Right now the RIAA has pushed right up against the wall of public apathy, many who don't even fully understand the situation were not happy seeing 12yo girls and Grandparents sued over sharing music. Perhaps an article like this will be the proverbial "last straw" to push the public past their apathy and into full blown "the must change NOW" mode. It'll take that to stop the *AA's lobbying efforts for ridiculous laws like the Induce act.

    The RIAA also has been quite effective in making it sound like the Internet and P2P will end music. The reality is it may put an end to the current music industry where profits are reaped at the artists' expense but those who are musically talented will continue to create new music. The most likely end result is an entirely new music distribution mechanism, one that pays the artists fairly. More and more bands are starting to offer Mp3s online, both for free and for small payments. The more people who know about this and start taking advantage of it, the quicker the current crooked practices of the music industry will fail. It might even lead to more good music being out there. :)

    1. Re:We need more articles like this. by ravenspear · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The RIAA also has been quite effective in making it sound like the Internet and P2P will end music. The reality is it may put an end to the current music industry where profits are reaped at the artists' expense but those who are musically talented will continue to create new music.

      That is the crux of the matter. Ever since Napster the RIAA has doused the public with hundreds of stories, press releases, and all out rants that internet piracy is so out of control it will ultimately destroy their right to collect profit on the IP they hold.

      The reality is that the threat to them is much broader than piracy, but they don't want to focus on that. There have been several university studies (I can't remember them specifically right now) that have indicated that P2P sharing has not had a huge impact on music sales. It seems that while some people do download things and never pay for them, others actually buy more music because of it. The reason for this is the broad distribution mechanism the internet offers artists outside of RIAA sanctioned radio.

      Behind the scenes, I'm quite sure the RIAA isn't doing it all because they feel that Kazaa will ultimately cause them to go bankrupt. What they are really afraid of is permitting artists to see the potential of online music distribution. If that happens and the artists realize they can do just as well by going online and connecting directly to their fans and listening audience, then they will see a better alternative to the perennial shafting they inevitable receive from the RIAA. Once that occurs, the RIAA will become irrelevant and that's what they are deathly afraid of.

      They're trying to turn back the clock by painting everything related to online music with the same brush. Let's hope it doesn't work.

  5. Actually, it does not at all promote filesharing. by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Actually, this article doesn't promote filesharing at all, but rather legal sources of authorized downloads and/or streams.

    If authorized downloads were all that was file-shared, file-sharing would be a non-issue.

    The issue revolves around unauthorized sharing, and this article isn't about that.

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  6. It's not the computer that steals music... by AcademicRobot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The debate over filesharing networks a close analogy to the gun-control debate. In other words, here they are saying that the means (e.g., guns or file-sharing) are not at fault, it's the motivation (e.g., for violent crime or stealing music). The opposite side of the debate is, of course, if we remove the means, then we disable the criminal.

    I bring this up only to point out how Congress reacts to these types of questions. That is, the means can be held accountable (i.e., gun registration, bans on some firearms). We could see uncontrolled filesharing networks banned based only on how the RIAA is framing the debate.

  7. Re:Actually, it does not at all promote filesharin by Jameth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Actually, this article doesn't promote filesharing at all, but rather legal sources of authorized downloads and/or streams."

    So, those aren't...um...files? And people aren't, well, sharing them? Could you possibly explain what is different between sharing files and filesharing?

  8. Congress Call In Day by kenf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So far only a few people have signed up for the Congress Call In Day. Come on Slashdotters, shouldn't you all be protecting your right to own a computer? Where is the Slashdot effect on this one?

  9. Re:Consider the source by richieb · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If one million people download a song for free from a P2P service, instead of buying it, that is potentially one million fewer sales for that song.

    Actually you can hear a song for free in many other places (i.e. radio, TV). But how about this scenario:

    No one downloads the song via P2P.

    Radio plays it once. 10,000 people hear it.

    Ten people buy it.

    Instead of:

    Million people download it via P2P.

    Thousand people like it, so the they buy it.

    Not to mention that it cost $100,000 to get it played on the radio in the first place.

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    ...richie - It is a good day to code.