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Dave Barry on Electronic Voting

eggoeater writes "With the general interest Slashdot has with electronic voting machines, I thought we'd all enjoy reviewing Dave Barry's take on touch-screen voting machines and debating the merits of police officers carrying lightsabers."

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  1. That's the problem with America today... by Soulfader · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... I just can't tell anymore whether I'm supposed to be laughing WITH or AT people.

  2. Re:Comedy as news source by cpeikert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course, its not very informative, but it will at least lead you to think about hackers as a concern for e-voting.

    Hackers aren't the real concern for e-voting. Partisan election officials and machine manufacturers are. So in a way, this Dave Barry article both introduces a real concern, and at the same time disposes of it by implying that it's far-fetched.

    But I think you're very right about comedy being a good way to point out important issues -- for example, The Daily Show is probably one of the best news sources out there.

  3. I think Dave has some points by ScytheBlade1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not about the electronic voting or anything, but that is pretty dang funny.

    I think he's got some points being funny though. I mean, how many people do you know who becoome so obsessed with this election, that even a mention of "a different" canidate will get you a glare?

    Peopel need to tone it down a bit. Stuff like that really provides some needed comedy, when it's really needed too.

    I walk down the hall talking to some people, and they say that this year is going to end up sucking. "Why's that?" I ask. "Because I've got several massive projects due in the start of December, my grandma is on the verge of death, and to top it all off, Bush might get re-elected." ...

    This guy isn't even of legal age to vote, and he was literally thinking that Bush being re-elected is by far worse than anything else at the moment.

    Come on people, live a little, joke a little. Rock on Dave Barry.

  4. Re:If Diebold used Linux... by back_pages · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I bet if Diebold used Linux you'd be all for it.

    Pay up, sucker.

    ATMs work because the institution has a vested interest in keeping everything on the level. Electronic voting will fail because the institution has a vested interest in making sure the results are "adjusted".

    Spin the tables - tell your bank that you're going to withdraw $100 and demand unrestricted access to the vaults for 5 minutes. If you think that's a dumbass idea, then you think electronic voting is a dumbass idea.

  5. Doesn't anyone think it's sad by HangingChad · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It doesn't bother anyone else that people in this country were seriously asking for UN observers for a US election?

    Politics has always been kind of an ugly business, but I don't remember a campaign in my lifetime that was so bitter, petty, angry, divisive and deliberately misleading. We have collectively sunk to the ethical level of Karl Rove.

    Not only do we not deserve a leadership position in the world, we are becoming ugly and pathetic. We are in real danger of turning into the richest third world country on the planet.

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    1. Re:Doesn't anyone think it's sad by cbare · · Score: 5, Insightful


      Whaddya mean third world country?

      • rampant crony capitalism
      • giant national debt
      • devalued currency
      • pointless wars motivated by crackpot ideology
      • nominal democracy characterized by shakey elections

      Naaa that'll never happen here. This is America!


      p.s. in deibold we trust.

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      -cbare
  6. 30 Second Commercial Spots by Izaak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The part I liked best was his rif on 30 second commercial spots. They do nothing to inform the voters, yet they are often the thing that swings the election. They are a primary reason money has become such a huge corrupting influence in politics. Like those Swift Boat Vet adds. They have been completely discredited, but many people will never learn that part of it and only remember the adds themselves. This is why I urge people to do a few google news searches and inform yourselves of the issues before going in the voting booth.

  7. Re:Excluding stories from homepage? by gilroy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Blockquoth the poster:

    So a small plea to the editors; please keep politics in their own Section until someone fixes the Exclusion?

    or fixes the election... :)

    Kidding aside, this story is about tech and its impact, not just politics. It's not inappropriate that it appear on the main page. Here's a radical thought, if you see the headline for a story and you just know you won't want to read it: Don't. Participation on slashdot is voluntary in many degrees.

    If you're so thin-skinned that you can't handle seeing the merest headline that indicates politics simply exists, then you probably would be happier unplugging the computer and TV, and simply watching the paint crack.
  8. Re:Banned by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Canada has always had pencil-and-paper voting and always seems to be able to get decisive results in a few hours. Why can't the Americans do this? Is the missing technology high-school graduates who can read?

  9. Re:Banned by gilroy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Blockquoth the poster:

    What about us conservatives that don't?

    So you're willing to accept an invalid result if it saves you a few bucks? No wonder the Republic is in such dire straits these days.

    Look at it this way: Naturally enough, you believe your positions to be correct. If you also believe in democracy, then you have to believe that your valid ideas will win out, long run, versus the invalid ones that compete. (If you feel this is pollyanna, fine... but then you don't believe in democracy.) Since you're clearly on the side of goodness and light, if an election were to be improper, it would be The Other Guys who rigged it. These are the guys whom you believe want to raise taxes to 100% while legally mandating all sorts of moral depravities. Do you want them to get in because you wouldn't shell out few dollars?

    If you believe in your cause, then settling a contested election will lead to the "right" people being elected ... and then they can go on to slash revenues and so on. So long term, the spending for a valid election would be more of an investment, or at least, more like spending more money on flourescent bulbs: Down the road, you save more than it costs.
  10. Rolls of paper tape by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Say you have 10 candidates. So you set up 100,000 voting stations across the country (I am not an American). At each station you have 100 (10 rolls x ten booths to allow 10 people to vote at the same time) extremely large rolls of paper tape encased into a transparent plastic cover. The paper rolls are of different color. The paper tape has candidate's name printed on it over and over again on the face side. On the other side of the name there is a number printed as a bar code binary format and in a decimal format, this is a sequential number that identifies the paper roll, and the position of this number within the roll.

    As a person enters a booth, (s)he sees 10 buttons, of which only one can be pressed at once and once a button is pressed the other buttons are deactivated until the next person enters the booth. Once a button is pressed, the voter can see a candidate's name cut off from a corresponding tape, the piece of paper falls into a box.

    So now by the end of election with this particular setup you have the following:

    1. 100 boxes with papers on them in each voting location.
    2. 100 tape enclosures with some tape left on them.

    So now to count just look at the end of the tape, the last sequential number must tell you how many votes were cast for this particular candidate.

    The boxes and the tapes must be stored seperately for a recount purposes.

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    Here is how to make counting of the totals possible:

    Have a website where the people doing the local counts login into and post their numbers against their voting location.

    These numbers must be accessible by all, the person who just submitted them will see them on the site and if something funny happens to them (like they change one way or another) then have the local news notified.

    This website should be well secured though. Please.

  11. Re:Pork Barrel budgets? by Whyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they were smarter, they wouldn't vote for Bush. But dumb people need representation too, right?

    Aside from the parent being an obvious Troll, this is a perfect example of what is wrong with most politicians. The parent is likely a Democrat, but in truth you can probably find it in each and every party.

    These type of politicians automatically assume that their personal experience and knowledge was arrived at through flawless logic and insight. Subsequently their view points are the only correct view point possible.

    Then they go on to extrapolate that anyone who has a different opinion obviously is less intelligent and thus unable to achieve their own level of flawless logic and insight. And in short, patently wrong-headed (because they don't agree with "me").

    I'll grant that your view point may be logical arrived at considering your limited experience. But to claim insight requires one to consider diverse view points in a fair and critical manner of some lenghty temporal span. And from your use of language I am unable to identify any such insight.

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