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Endorse EDRI's Statement Against Data Retention

Ville Oksanen writes "Privacy International (PI) and European Digital Rights (EDRI) have published their joint answer to the consultation on mandatory data retention. The European Commission asked for public comments on a proposed retention regime across Europe between 12 and 36 months for all traffic data generated by using fixed and mobile telephony and Internet. As Statewatch puts it: 'This is a proposal so intrusive that Ashcroft, Ridge and company can only dream about it, exceeding even the U.S. Patriot Act.' EDRI and PI are currently collecting endorsements from organizations and companies for their stamement here. This is unfortunately not enough to stop the process - expecially more should be done in the member states, which ultimately decide the fate of the proposal. So contact your local politicians today!"

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  1. So much for the internet liberating people by LucidBeast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ability to record our movements, intrests, communications will in the future make it possible to really control the population from itself.

  2. "exceeding even the U.S. Patriot Act" by l3v1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No surprise here. Seeing hoow privacy issues are sought to be handled in the US and how more and more of US (mal)practices come over to us (i.e. Europe) every day, there's nothing to be surprised at.

    What we need to do is hold our ground and not let these things happen. Same holds for software patents and the like.

    Freedom also means you are free to stand up and defend your rights. What we don't defend today may be lost tomorrow. And yes, that's too late. It's always easier [revent than to abolish later.

    --
    I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
  3. Re:Just curious... by Incadenza · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since /. is US centric, and this appears to be an EU matter, why would they give a rat's ass what most of us have to say on the matter?

    Well, I thought the tag line was News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. Nothing about the US in there.

    Technology is trans-national. What happens in Taiwan will influence the prices of equipment in the US.
    The Internet and its legal framework are even more trans-national. When European sites store their visitors data, they will store US visitors too. When the US strengthens its anti-piracy rules, Australians take heed.
    Limiting /. to the US, what a silly idea.

  4. Re:Ask them some questions by Moridineas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Have you ever gone over the speed limit in a car? Do you want to be monitored 24/7 so if you do, the government can simply issue you a remote fine?

    No, I don't want to be monitored, but..it WOULD be fair.

    2. Do you mind having government cameras in your home 24/7? How about in your bedroom, shower or toilet? After all, you have nothing to hide. Right? If you don't want cameras in your home, you must be conspiring against the government. Right?

    I don't see the connection between cameras in the house and a national ID card as an example. I guess it's a decent point, but a little alarmist sounding (conspiracy theorist like)

    3. Why is it that it's ok to have citizens watched 24/7, yet you can't see the footage and for some reason, no politicians seem to be surveilled?

    I don't like this argument either. Who would argue that it's not ok for the police to watch criminals? Likewise, if the police was watching you, would you want anyone to be able to download the video off the internet? I don't think so.. Likewise, politicians are probably the most recorded people around.

    4. Why shouldn't the insurance companies know about your entire medical, driving and social records, all the time, so they can dynamically adjust your risk status and increase payments as necessary?

    Would probably be more fair that way...

    5. Why do you need a secret ballot to vote for your politicians?

    That's a decent one.

    6. Shouldn't the politicians be doing your bidding, not ruling you?

    Hmm.. not sure about this one. I elect a politician to lead, not do my bidding. I don't really think that's the point of electing people to office.