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Intel Predicts Death Of WWW

LostCluster writes "Forbes is running a report saying that Intel's CTO claims that the WWW is 'running up on some architectural limitations' that will eventually cause its downfall. He's pushing a project called PlanetLab that has Princeton, Cambridge, Hewlett-Packard and AT&T on board, but Cisco is notably absent from that team."

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  1. Buy more chips by otisg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is he also, by any chance, suggesting a solution: buy more, newever, faster Intel chips!?

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  2. Well... by spieters · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't bother to RTFA this time, the article's about as low on info as the summary.

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    1. Re:Well... by KilobyteKnight · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Don't bother to RTFA this time, the article's about as low on info as the summary.

      Complete lack of technical savvy is what I've come to expect from Forbes. They just don't get the SCO thing either. And in this article, they interchangably use the terms "World Wide Web" and "internet". Forbes is obviously the magazine for pointy haired bosses, I can't imagine anyone else taking it seriously.
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    2. Re:Well... by Alsee · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Last time Slashdot ran this story I did a little digging. I'm not sure of everything Intel has in mind, but part of their plan is to impose a Trusted Computing layer on top of the internet. "Security" "viruses" "authentication" blah blah blah. What it really amounts to is that if you do not "voluntarily" submit to Trusted Computing and turn over control of your computer you will be locked out.

      Slashdot ran a story quite some time ago about Cisco Working to Block Viruses at the Router. The way they really work is they first scan that you are Trusted Computing Compliant, then they can scan exactly what software you are running, for example to ensure you are running the mandated firewall or anti-virus software or whatnot.

      If you do not submit to Trusted Computing, or if you are not running the mandated software, then the router "quarantines" you until you come into compliance. In other words it denies you a network connection. Compliance is "voluntary", but you are blocked from the network until you comply.

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    3. Re:Well... by Ranx · · Score: 5, Informative

      Intel's press release about the same speech has a little bit more information, although nothing technical.

      http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20 040909corp.htm

      Also interesting: a link to the open platform website:

      http://www.planet-lab.org/

      Interesting quotes:

      "Applications run on PlanetLab are decentralized, with pieces running on many machines spread across the global Internet. They can also self-organize to form their own networks, and include some form of application processing inside the network (instead of at the edges), adding new intelligence and capabilities to the Internet."

      "It would provide a platform on which Web services can run and a way to connect grid computing sites and utility data centers. It sits above the new physical infrastructure supplied by Internet 2 and above the networking layer where IPv6 functions, adding a new stratum of higher-level functionality to the Internet."

      Why it has to replace the current TCP/IP-infrastructure is still unclear (apart from selling more hardware).

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  3. ... But blind posts are forever by walmass · · Score: 5, Funny

    WWW may be dying, but repeating old stories is forever

  4. Death of the Internet by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps the internet will be killed by the fact that, with constant breeding of duplicated news stories, one will eventually reach critical mass and overwhelm all other information.

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  5. The Internet is Dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    It is official; Netcraft confirms: the Internet is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered the Internet community when IDC confirmed that the Internet market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that the Internet has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. the Internet is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict the Internet's future. The hand writing is on the wall: the Internet faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for the Internet because the Internet is dying. Things are looking very bad for the Internet. As many of us are already aware, the Internet continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    All major surveys show that the Internet has steadily declined in market share. the Internet is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If the Internet is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. the Internet continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, the Internet is dead.

    Fact: the Internet is dying

  6. the Internet is not the WWW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any article that confuses the Internet with the world wide web can't be taken seriously.

  7. The experts by shoemakc · · Score: 5, Funny


    Well god bless them. I remember the day vividly when my shiney new Pentium 3 arrived, and i was finally able to browse the internet.

    And why hardware limitation exactly are they refering to; heat from your cpu exhaust instantly melting through your patch cable?

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  8. WWW != Internet by lazybeam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought that the HTTP protocol was going to die? But no, they are talking about the Internet switches and routers being overloaded. And it will only get worse as more people use broadband - that means ISPs will have to upgrade their equipment! (shock! horror!) The WWW is going to break with all the """ codes in the article, too.

    Gelsinger's solution is to build a new network over the current Internet,

    The WWW is a network over the current Internet... Oh well

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  9. Re-architecture by el+americano · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A worthless article to be sure, with no discussion of the web's architectural problems. (bad Slashdot) There is obviously more to the architectural problem than will be solved by IPv6, but allowing for IPv6 and higher capacity routers alone, I'm sure the web could go a long time with no other upgrade. I can only wonder how much money Intel will spend on convincing people that the web will die "sooner than you think." If it's anything like the $300 million they spent on telling people they have the best/only Wi-Fi solution, we'll be hearing this for a long time.

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  10. Intel CEO Lyle Lanley, everyone! by adoarns · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Web was not created by companies like Intel. It wasn't created by companies at all, only in some cases co-opted by them.

    When companies like Intel pitch these wide-ranging changes, it comes over like some seedy traveling salesman pitching a monorail.

    If we want to make changes to the web, we will.

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  11. Pentel Predicts Death Of WWW by tommasz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pentel, the world's leading provider of 0.5mm mechanical pencils has predicted the World Wide Web cannot continue to function at its present level for much longer. Pentel is offering an alternative, called WSD, or Writing Stuff Down, that is virtually immune to scaling problems currently plaguing the Web. Industry experts have been slow to respond to this proposal but their responses are expected any day now, via another new technology called the Post Office.

  12. Re:Very Vague by leifbk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    At least to me, they have not said what the problems are to begin with and further more have not said how they are going to address each one.

    The problem, from a financial point of view, is of course that it isn't that easy to make money off the Internet as a lot of investors may have thought. TFA suggests as much when it's said that "the Internet will begin to collapse as millions of new computer users from developing nations begin to sign on." My guess is that most of those new users from developing nations hardly have the potential to generate profit remotely in proportion to their consumed bandwidth. So the Internet as a means to stockpile return on investment may well soon be a thing of the past.

    And that probably sums up Forbes' interest in the case.

    However, as long as the infrastructure of the 'net mainly consist of rather cheap hardware and essentially free software, I can't foresee the imminent death of what we really love about it: The free exchange of information around the globe. It's not the death of the Internet, then, it's rather a full turn of the circle back to Tim's vision. And good riddance to the money hoarders.
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