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Spam Turns 100, By One Reckoning

mkavanagh2 writes "Spam is 100 years old today! But, surprisingly, the first spam wasn't sent via e-mail. In fact, 100 years ago, Cunard sent out telegrams to selected (rich) members of the British social elite, advertising tickets on a new liner, and becoming the first spammer. Let us all take out a moment to consider how to best 'repay' the spammers who followed for the 100 years of 'joy' they have given us. ;)"

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  1. Cheap fun by erick99 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Spam, if that is what it was (as opposed to junk mail) was a bit more costly to Cunard than to modern day spammers. If he had not the cost of the telegrams he might have sent the sales pitch to the entire assembly rather than the "select" group. Junk mail is cheaper still than telegrams but not nearly as cheap as email spam where you can reach out and touch millions for a pittance. So long as spam is that inexpensive, and a least a few souls click to their way to more hair, a longer penis, $35,000,000 from a besieged politico in Nigeria, then we will continue to have spam. Short of taxing email (would that even work?), spam is here to stay. No need to repay them, they seemingly pay themselves very well, and, possibly , at your expense.

    Cheers,

    Erick

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    1. Re:Cheap fun by rokzy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hate this defeatist attitude.

      there is no reason why spam cannot be defeated. in principle it's one of the easiest problems. much easier than hunger or aids. the problem is just that lots of people in charge won't get off their arse and design a new protocol.

      maybe because there's no money in it. pharmaceutical companies hate cures, they much prefer treatments. you only sell a cure once, but treatments last a lifetime.

    2. Re:Cheap fun by back_pages · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Oh yeah, laziness and greed are gonna be SO easy to just stamp out. It's definitely not as hard as, say, using the farking shift key.

      Spam is not a technological problem, it's a social problem. Find me a widespread social problem that was easy to fix and I'll show you a magical fantasy land with unicorns and easy living.

    3. Re:Cheap fun by znode · · Score: 5, Insightful
      but make a protocol that doesn't allow anonymous sending of mail and you defeat spam.
      Show me a non-spoofable (or so difficult to spoof it would not be profitable sending spam through) protocol that doesn't allow anonymous sending of mail, yet still allows normal communications*, and I'll send you a copy of Duke Nukem Forever. On a stick.

      *i.e. not a whitelist, because then legitimate but not-yet-on-your-whitelist people can't contact you
  2. Well, not nitpicking by savagedome · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But, surprisingly, the first spam wasn't sent via e-mail

    Shouldn't that be "But, unsurprisingly, the first spam wasn't sent via e-mail".
    It would be really a surprise if they sent spam by email 100 years ago. Don't you think?!

  3. Spam - More than a nuisance by cato+kaze · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We joke and complain about spam, but personally I am wondering how much the internet can take before things just start to slow down drastically. Spam is increasing, not decreasing, and it is most certainly doing so with or faster than the pace of technology. We really need to find some solutions to this problem before spam becomes so widespread that the only way to fight it is to increast bandwith. (I don't mean just email spam, I mean popups and flash banners and such. The bandwith they take up must be massive, I'm amazed that the internet still functions with all the waste)

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    1. Re:Spam - More than a nuisance by erick99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is an interesting point that seems obvious but I don't see it expressed that often. If spam really did get so bad that the Internet was noticeably affected, I mean to the point that big businesses were losing big money, I bet a very creative solution would be forthcoming pretty quickly. I think that is what it migh take. -erick

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  4. Where there's any universal medium, there's ads by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are really two kinds of person-to-person communication medium...

    - An open network, where anybody can send to anybody... and that means you can get messages from people you never heard of, for better or worse. Lowlife types are allowed to thrive and spam away.
    - A closed network where in order to stay in the club, you've gotta play by the rules. Lowlifes are bounced out on their first offenses. This keeps the trouble away, but it also limits the number of people who can reach you over that channel.

  5. Nice job hammering Wikipedia for no reason by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The link in the story has nothing to do with the text used.. there's nothing on that page about spam being 100 years old. Worse, it's a link to an other useful resource which could do without being hammered by tens of thousands of Slashdot readers. Remember the recent stories about Wikipedia being overloaded on Slashdot recently?

  6. Re:Thanks Billy by buchalka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One thing I rarely see mentioned is that spam is mostly micrososft's fault.

    What a pile of crap. While I am no MS supporter blaming Microsoft is pure and simply wrong.

    Blame the people DOING the spamming, blame the people who don't keep up to date with the latest patches (which will dramatically reduce the chance of your box becoming owned).

    While you at it blame the people trying to own the box.

    Those are owned because Billy and the Boys from Redmond simply have no idea how to build an operating system

    Bzzzt. Wrong. See above. (This from a linux advocate).

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  7. From Wikipedia by craXORjack · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Some of the "firsts" accomplished by Cunard include:

    • First transatlantic passenger service (Britannia, 1840)
    • First passenger ship to be lit by electricity (Servia, 1881)
    • First twin-screw ocean liner (Campania, 1893)
    • First steam turbine engines in a passenger liner (Carmania, 1905)
    • First gymnasium and health centre aboard a ship (Franconia, 1911)
    • Largest passenger ship (until 1996) (Queen Elizabeth, 1940)
    • Largest passenger ship (Queen Mary 2, 2004)
    But I don't see where it says they were the first to spam. Anyone have the link to that?
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