Mandrake 10.1 Community Released

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Mandrake 10.1 Community Released

Posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday September 16, 2004 @04:39AM from the stuff-to-play-with dept.

MohammedSameer writes "Mandrakesoft released MandrakeLinux 10.1 Community, As usual it's only available first to the club members The new release features Kernel 2.6.8.1, Xorg-X11 6.7, KDE 3.2.3 with 3.3 as an install option,"

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Also, let's not forget to thank Texstar... by Chuck+Bucket · 2004-09-16 04:55 · Score: 4, Informative

One of the best resources in the Mandrake community has been an individual called Texstar who ran a Linux news site called www.pclinuxonline.com and also in his spare time created RPM packages for Mandrake systems. Texstar's packages became justly famous and were widely used. Thanks to his efforts, many reallly nice RPMs were made available to the MDK commmunity, and eventually went into 9 and 10 from what I've heard. This kind of 'community support' is what I'm most happy with.

Thanks Texstar!

CB@#$

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Re:The Club by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-16 04:59 · Score: 2, Informative

Been a silver member for better than two years, IMHO it is worth it.
2.6 kernel may blow away NTFS. by jlseagull · 2004-09-16 05:03 · Score: 5, Informative

This problem is common with the 2.6 kernel and has been verified in Mandrake 10.0 Community, Red Hat FC1, Red Hat FC2, and others.

Read about it here.

Basically, if you touch the MBR with a 2.6 kernel bootloader, XP or Windows 2000 is gone, and can't be restored. So backup your MBR first by using

"dd if=(input device) of=/(output dir)/hda-img.mbr bs=512 count=1"

where if=(input device), should point to your first drive, eg. /dev/hda, and of=(output dir) should point to where you want to save the bootsector as a file. Restore the MBR by reversing the input and output.

Even if you do this to restore, your Windows partition may still be toast, depending on how much you messed with the partition table.

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1. Re:2.6 kernel may blow away NTFS. by egghat · 2004-09-16 06:03 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  If I understand things correctly, you shouldn't be hit by this bug any more especially with a new distro like the new Mandrake.
  
  Read more about this here, especially about resolving this when you have been hit (you won't lose any data):
  
  Fedora Mailing List post
  
  Bye egghat.
  
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2. Re:2.6 kernel may blow away NTFS. by h8macs · 2004-09-16 06:24 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  The WinXP partition is using ntfs. Mandrake 10 official with lilo as the boot loader.
  
  That is a weird issue, it does not appear that the culprit has been identified on the Mandrake bug report, I would be interested to know what the cause is. As to the BIOS, since it is a Compaq laptop the BIOS is fairly limited, not much one can change. I do typically use LBA mode, so perhaps this is why I have not seen the issue!?
  
  Anyone have access to a better (more configurable) BIOS image for the presario laptops (1505us)...any compaq/HP guys on /.?
  
  hmmmm....
  
  Were you able to rebuild the MBR or was the partition table completely hosed?
  
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3. Re:2.6 kernel may blow away NTFS. by jlseagull · 2004-09-16 07:43 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  It's especially the new distros. Older versions of Red Hat and Suse have no problems. The Mandrake 10 Community installer goes in and puts the bootloader into the MBR without even prompting the user, thereby ensuring the system gets hosed.
  
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4. Re:2.6 kernel may blow away NTFS. by hitmark · 2004-09-16 07:51 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  oh man, not this old story again.
  
  what happend was that the bios didnt agree with itself if it should use chf or lba mode to set the gemoetry of the disk. windows relys on the bios info when it creates the partitions. then along comes the linux kernel, pokes the disk directly, finds that the geometry info used to create the partitions is wrong and goes about cleaning up. then windows comes back and finds non of the info it expects and in good old windows fashion trows its virtual arms in the air and gives up. the files are all there, the partitions are all there, its just that the partition table isnt of the type windows expects and therefor windows fails.
  
  its just like ripping a disk with win2k or later on and stick it into a diffrent computer. on boot you will most likely get a bluescreen with a error as windows rely on its old hardware list to boot drivers, and when said drivers fail there is no fallback. linux on the other hand build the list every time it boots and therefor will not have mutch of a problem with the move.
  
  complaining that this is a linux error is like complaining that there is something wrong with firefox when you try to access a page designed with ms frontpage. most likley a visit to the w3c validator will show so many error that you will be surprised that it renders at all.
  
  the problem is that windows have become so mutch a "standard" that when something goes wrong it have to be the odd boy out there is the problem, not the devil in drag down the road.
  
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download from mirrors please! by Chuck+Bucket · 2004-09-16 05:05 · Score: 2, Informative

pretty good mirror (speed wise)
http://ftp.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakel inux/de vel/iso/10.1/

I'm going to see what new things are out on the Desktop.

CB

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1. Re:download from mirrors please! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-16 05:22 · Score: 1, Informative
  
  that mirror still has the public beta. not the club release.
Re:acpi support for laptops? by LnxAddct · 2004-09-16 05:08 · Score: 2, Informative

Fedora wasn't in your list. I've used it since FC1 on my laptop and its always worked great. If I were you though, its probably worth waiting a month for Core 3 to come out, alot of improved acpi stuff.
Regards,
Steve
I'm about to renew. by biendamon · 2004-09-16 05:10 · Score: 5, Informative

I'd say club membership is worth it, if you happen to prefer Mandrake as your primary distro. I appreciate the dedicated mirrors for club members quite a bit. Makes patch times much faster.

I also like the repositories for software that are available to club members. I have yet to find a piece of software out there that someone didn't turn into a Mandrake RPM, and the club mirrors seem to have it all. Sure, you can find them other places, too, but all in all it's nice to have everything in one place.
YUM or apt-rpm? by kundor · 2004-09-16 05:11 · Score: 3, Informative

Just use urpmi. Once you've setup your servers at http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ it's a great solution, both the commandline version and the GUI tools.
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Re:Xorg-X11 6.7? by rusty0101 · 2004-09-16 05:14 · Score: 3, Informative

Because it wasn't released until after the freeze on updates for this release of Mandrake perhaps?

Just because something has a new version out doesn't mean that people putting together a distribution are going to alter the package contents to add it. Gnome 2.8 is out too. It's not in Mandrake 10.1 either. Why not? Because 2.8 was released yesterday (or this week) the freeze for 10.1 happened several weeks ago, about the time that 10.1Beta1 came out I am pretty sure.

-Rusty

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Re:Club membership by opkool · 2004-09-16 05:21 · Score: 2, Informative

I've tried MDK-10.0-Community and several of MDK-10.1's Beta and Release Candidate.

In my experience, even MDK-10.1-Beta-1 was more stable than MDK-10.0-Community .

Peace
The issues have been fixed in the kernel by Sits · 2004-09-16 05:55 · Score: 5, Informative

Here is a cooker mailing list post refering to the bug being resolved.
Re:Only available to club members? by Mike+Buddha · 2004-09-16 05:57 · Score: 3, Informative

Well, children, the GPL says you have to release source code to your USERS when you distribute binary code. That's how this isn't a violation of any licenses.

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Re:2.6 kernel may blow away NTFS. - um.. NO! by axis-techno-geek · 2004-09-16 06:18 · Score: 1, Informative

Go back and RTFB.
This is only an issue with a certain combination of BIOS and chipset (nForce2). I have both 2.6.x (x86) and 2.6.x (x86_64) set-up on my machine booting via GRUB and also loading Win2K on an NTFS partition.
Stop the FUD.

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Re:Only available to club members? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-16 06:34 · Score: 1, Informative

No, dork-ball, you can still get all sources and even the RPMS from ANY OF THE MIRRORS. Of course, it's not in pretty install format, all packaged up. That is all. Please RTFM.
Re:Financial situation? by opkool · 2004-09-16 08:50 · Score: 3, Informative

See the results for yourself here.

In short: MandrakeSoft is out of "Chapter 11" (March 30th - 2004: Mandrakesoft Exits Bankruptcy). MandrakeSoft is back making profit. MandrakeSoft shares are back being actively traded.

Quoting latest report:
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During the third quarter of 2003/2004, Mandrakesoft produced a consolidated revenue of 1.50 M and a gross margin of 1.25 M, a respective increase of 39.1% and 66.7% compared with the same period of the previous fiscal year. The gross margin is the highest on record, and quarter by quarter there is an acceleration in its rate of growth (Q1 +29.8%, Q2 47.7%, Q3 +66.7%)

During the quarter, the company registered an operating income of 0.17 M (0.04 per share) compared to an operating loss of 0.47 M during the same period of the previous fiscal year. The net income increased to 0.19M (0.04 per share) compared to a net loss of 0.37 M during the previous fiscal year.
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So it's all good.

Peace!
Re:Gentoo by opkool · 2004-09-16 09:00 · Score: 3, Informative

The obtained system is quite rigid and require to enjoy GUI config tools (cause some of them cannot be bypassed)

This is a false statement.

All GUI config tools ("wizzards") can be bypassed... modifying text config files.

Also, most of GUI config tools have a text-version as well.

MandrakeLinux is also a good Linux distribution for those Linux old dogs (like myself) that do not need to prove "31337ness". I already have succesfully installed and used LFS and Slackware (last century, when it came in floppies).

I do not need to endure the pain anymore. My time is more valuable than to missuse it wasting time in a 2-day install and 10-day configure. I just need to use any Linux distribution.

Peace